Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat: One Hit, One Miss

Ubuntu 10.10, aka “Maverick Meerkat” was released recently, and according to the Ubuntu home page, the perfect 10 is here.  For those not familiar with Ubuntu’s release cycle, this one is a short-term support release which will be patched and modified up until it eventually morphs into the next long term release about 18 months from now.  


I decided to test two of these new offerings a couple of days ago.  I installed the i386 Desktop version on my Dell Lattitude 6500, which has the Nvidia Quadro graphics chipset and the Intel WiFi Link 5100 wireless chipset, and I put the Netbook version on the Acer Aspire One, which is an N450 based netbook with the Intel N10 graphics chipset and an Atheros AR8132 wireless adaptor.


The Hit

The Desktop Edition installed quickly and without any hitches.  Everything came up working with no problems: wireless, display, sound, everything.  I installed the Nvidia proprietary graphics driver to check it, and it works well too. Everything was as I have come to expect from Canonical -- it just worked.


The Miss

The Acer netbook is another story.  First the good news.  The install from the USB flash drive went quickly and seemed to go flawlessly.  The new layout for the Netbook Edition is simple, yet effective.  The background image is of course van Gogh’s Starry Night Over the Rhone.



Some more good news: after installing Google’s Chrome browser I went over to Hulu.com* to see how flash and the Intel graphics driver worked.  After watching a bit of The Simpsons, it seemed to me that streaming flash content was a bit smoother than it had been under 10.04 UNE.  However, this is just a subjective impression.

Now the bad news.

The wireless driver drops its connection more often than spuds in a hot potato juggling contest. When the Acer was sitting on my desk about 3 feet away from the wireless router it managed to stay connected, but when I moved approximately 20 feet away it began to demonstrate packet losses in excess of 50%, even though the wireless icon still showed a signal strength of 84%.

The wireless is basically unusable.



 

In the past when I’ve experienced this type of behavior with the Atheros driver in previous versions of (K)Ubuntu, installing the linux-backports-modules always fixed the problem, but such is not the case with Meerkat. Unfortunately, until a fix for this comes out, this netbook is basically usable primarily as a paperweight with Ubuntu 10.10.  I find it disappointing, because I really like the look and feel of this new Netbook Edition, and I wanted it to work.  It is also a bit irritating, because this very same problem existed as recently as UNE 10.04.  I sometimes marvel at our ability to continue to make the same mistakes in this Linux distro business.

In spite of having a netbook that was useless when located more than 20 feet from the wireless router, I poked around a bit more and found one other rough edge that needs to be taken care of by our friends at Canonical.  The Files and Folders icon (third from the bottom in the above picture) invokes a file browser, which I presume is still the default Nautilus application.

Clicking the F & F icon causes an applet to display your file system using icon representations. So far, so good.  Double click a folder icon and it opens.  Still copacetic .  Find a file that you would like to delete.  Yep, got one. Wait...  How you you delete a file?  Right clicking on the file icon has no effect, except for causing it to become inverse highlighted as long as the right mouse button is down.  No submenu of file operations ever appears.  Oopsie.  No way to change the browser view mode from “Icon” to “List”.  ‘Nother oopsie.

Finally, this release is sloooow compared to 10.04.  I’ve been reading other reviews of UNE 10.10, and they all pretty much agree that this one is not completely baked yet.  Unless you have some compelling reason to change, you should stay with UNE 10.04 until this one cooks a bit more.

These flaws, IMO, should probably have been caught in beta or RC before finding themselves in the actual release.  It will be interesting to see how long it will take to get fixes. Oh, and as far as the “Perfect 10” claim goes -- I suppose you could say that I have a “Perfect 10” paperweight shaped remarkably like a netbook.

 

*Hulu.com content is only viewable from within the United States of America

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I have Ubuntu 10.10 running

Edinburgh Photographer's picture

I have Ubuntu 10.10 running and am using it for photography and video editing for weddings. So far I am very pleased with it!

That's what we like to hear

Doug.Roberts's picture

I do a fair amount of photography and audio editing with Audacity on my Ubuntu 10.10 box. What video editing packages are you using, Scotty? :)

--Doug

Video Editors

Anonymous's picture

Here's a list of video editors that work in Ubuntu.

http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/top5-linux-video-editing-system-software/

I really like the Cinelerra program the best but it's kinda a pain to install and it's really codec heavy. I just encode everything in ogg or h.264 and transcode it if I need another format.

Somebody suggested in one of

Uçak Biletleri's picture

Somebody suggested in one of the comments below that the problem lay in the Unity UNE shell where the network manager was not properly working. To test this I installed the 10.10 Desktop image on the Acer Aspire One.

Good work!

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in fact I can't let it run on

Fussbodenheizung's picture

in fact I can't let it run on my laptop. I always have problems. I will not give up. Next trial i will start tomorrow. Cheers Fussbodenheizung

UNE kinda blows.

Anonymous's picture

I read this post and I think it echoed true to my experience as well. I didn't have the atheros issues although I'm using a similar wifi chip. Wifi has always been a tough one ubuntu. I'm currently trying to get 10.10 to talk to a asus n10 usb wifi cause the in internal mini pci is burned out. Compile after compile no dice. Anyway, the reason I'm posting is most of the issues you have with une is the ui. This is the unity interface and it's suppose to be the standard desktop experience by version 11.04 which scares me because though it has it's novelties it's nowhere close to being finished or as polished as gnome. I understand Mark's argument that the gnome project is going in a different direction or not moving fast enough. There's also word that they're going to be leaving the xserver.org in the dust as well. So this may speed up performance. The only way I've found to control files is to manually launch nautilus. Either by command line or by tricking the ui. there's a little folder icon in the upper right corner. You hit that and it opens a conventional window.

Update to Unity

Anonymous's picture

The Ubuntu Team will be providing a 2D version of Unity. So far this is vastly smoother that the previous iteration. Still not sure this could be my daily desktop but then again I get along just fine in other environments, why not this? I don't understand why they don't just recode the 3D compiz version in QT also. QT is a great platform.

Ubuntu 10.10 on LG X130

Robinson Moreira's picture

Right, I installed Ubuntu 10.10 on my wuw's (windows user wife) LG X130 netbook side by side with windows 7 starter and after some strugle to make wi-fi work guess what? - She asked me to take the windows out of her netbook to free some HD space...

It works perfectly and smooth. To solve the file and folders bug it was very simple. When you are browsing the files you can find on the top left corner an icon of a folder. You click it and... SURPRISE! The good old nautilus we all love and respect. So, I just looked for the nautilus icon on the Unity laucher bar, right clicked and chose "keep on laucher". Voilá! She is now a UUW and very happy every time she gets to next SuperTux 2 Level.

Not only this, I can also watch DVDs with my external drive, use Kdenlive, DeVeDe, Gimp, Audacity and many other Softwares, use dual screen settings, what is very good to her, once we are taking the netnook to a trip, and as she is a Spanish teacher, can use all those features in her classes.

I really recommend Ubuntu 10.10 Netbook edition.

I probably would to

Doug.Roberts's picture

If the Atheros wireless driver worked. A netbook without wireless internet is of limited use...

--Doug

Switched to kubuntu

pbardet's picture

I really didn't like the new unity interface for netbooks. Knowing that they will move it to the desktop makes me nervous. But at least the kubuntu 10.10 works fine on my asus eeepc while the 10.04 failed (wifi).

My main beef with the UNE 10.10 is the file management. As pointed out by Doug, no right click menu, to do anything on files. Also, when you access a file through the files& folders menu, the file "disappears" after a while. I tried to play videos that were on my internal hard drive, but after a few seconds (random), they would always stop playing. After a bit of tweaking, I figured out that by launching a "real" file browser and playing the file from that application, the problem would be gone. Really weird.

I then decided to try kubuntu 10.10, and everything is fine, except maybe that it seems a little bit slow, compared to UNR 10.04. Also, the KDE wallet shows up at login time to access wi-fi, but I haven't really looked into getting rid of it, since it's an extra security. Other than that, I'm fairly happy to be able to use again KDE that I dropped after the 4.0 fiasco. Maybe that's what I will be able to use again on my desktop machine.

Unity Desktop

Anonymous's picture

I think the Ubuntu team should offer Unity as a mode or an option. I would actually like to see a Gubuntu, Kubuntu, & Ubuntu. They could prolly drop edubuntu. Gubuntu and Kubuntu would still be great for desktops but Ubuntu could be something offered as a tablet OS alternative. Or like I said earlier they could offer the Unity UI as a mode. The new Lion OS can go into a mode similar to the Ipad, where Apple keeps it's new app store for the desktop. It has a lot of features that I believe compiz and the Linux community had first. Take Expo mode and call it Expose mode and all of a sudden it's a shiny Apple innovation.

Agreed

jaisonwilliams's picture

I almost had the same experience..wish I had read your feedback earlier!

On my Lenovo S10-2 Ubutu

Mikix's picture

On my Lenovo S10-2 Ubutu Netbook 10.04 and 10.10 work fine; USB, webcam, wireles, ethernet, bluetooth, everything work ok. It's great this system in this netbook. I don't have any problems, i love linux.

Need help Lenovo S10-2 Ubutu

Anonymous's picture

Hay I just saw your message on this site.
I fo have Lenovo S10-2 I tried to run love Ubuntu 10.10 desktop but it could not recognize the wireless I wonder if you can help how did you do fix it.

Please, Advance thanks and Happy new year

Need help Lenovo S10-2 Ubutu

Anonymous's picture

Hay I just saw your message on this site.
I fo have Lenovo S10-2 I tried to run love Ubuntu 10.10 desktop but it could not recognize the wireless I wonder if you can help how did you do fix it.

Please, Advance thanks and Happy new year

Intel graphics support

Miran's picture

I thought Ubuntu dropped support for Intel graphics... Or was that just for the Intel graphics on MY computer? It sorta works... but then the computer freaks out unexpectedly and reboots... or just locks up. I've tried several "fixes"... but nothing worked. I really don't want to buy a new graphics card!

Intel

Doug.Roberts's picture

Is this a recent install that you're having trouble with? Intel has actually been doing a pretty decent job of providing working graphics drivers to the Linux community which Ubuntu includes in their distros. I have a couple of laptops with Intel graphics chipsets, and they are solid under Ubuntu 10.04 & 10.10.

--Doug

Intel Graphics

Miran's picture

Yeah, it's recent... Ubuntu 10.04 just decided to drop support for the Intel chipset in my old Dell. Sudden moves like that scare me away from Linux, frankly. I really love the operating system, but I can't see putting any real money into a real network with it. Not when they're going to just stop supporting hardware they USED to work with and leave you twisting in the wind. Check out their link on the subject:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1466969&page=2

Surprising

Doug.Roberts's picture

I find it somewhat surprising that support for this Intel driver was dropped from 10.04. It has been my experience that as long as a vendor provides driver support for their hardware, the drivers are included in the Ubuntu distributions. I wonder if there is some incompatibility with the Intel-supplied driver code with the kernels in 10.04 which led to the driver being dropped.

--Doug

Acer aspire one

Anonymous's picture

hi can anyone help me ? please ..
i`m trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 and it`s loading but it`s not i`ts stops at the first question 2.5 gb i have , it`s connected at wi fi and it`s plugged

Thanks

UNE 10.10

kaddy's picture

Fair review of Ubuntu 10.10

here is mine on UNE 10.10

www.youtube.com/Linux4UnMe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upVWR0SEB-8

UNR on the AAO

v0lt4g3's picture

The first time I tried UNR 9.04 on my AAO ZG5, I hated it.

Sure it worked ok for basics, but without a working 3g connection, this OS relegated my netbook to glorified paperweight status.

I quickly realized that if this netbook could run WinXP, then it can run most any *nix distro, so I downloaded Xubuntu 9.10 & wouldn't you know the 3g modem came to life! [albeit sporadically]

One year later the *buntu team has almost fixed my issue, but I'm still going to compile my own kernel with the gobi_loader + patch.

I guess the gist of this post is that just because it's a netbook, that doesn't mean you have to run the netbook edition of a distro.

Thanks

Doug.Roberts's picture

I also tried the 10.10 Desktop edition on the Acer netbook, but the same behavior exists, which makes perfect sense because the bug is pretty clearly in the Atheros driver which resides in a kernel module. In the past, a patched version of this driver has also included in the linux backports modules package.

I've wondered for a few years, btw, why there is a need for a linux backports modules package instead of just migrating bug fixes for drivers into the mainline kernel development effort. Maybe I'm just a dreamer, but that seems to me how it should work.

--Doug

Use a 34 or 36 kernel, not the 35

Anonymous's picture

I bet it's the graphics driver hogging the CPU. See
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1594239
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1592245
Use a newer or older kernel. The first post shows how.

Only get Ubuntu 3 month after release dates. Stay to LTS.

Spanky's picture

Ultimate stability = stay with LTS (see below)

Cutting edge; with stability = WAIT until a new release is at least 3 months old.

You have to remember; while Ubuntu is the ultimate in user friendliness, for newbie and sage alike, it endeavors to let less no grass grow; under it's arse. Newbies will never understand, sometimes, one has to dig up the very foundation, to get to a better "house". This is the realm of the deepest of tech poo. No poo! Believe it. Trust me, if you are not extremely technical, just have a little faith in the brick layers.

Now look. I get that it's the, resultant, top layer; that matters most! It does. The "brick layers", best not leave the home unlivable, by the time an new rendition is "released"; past "beta" testing. Yet, the reality is, we get the oh so important, forward momentum; HOWEVER, history clearly demonstrates, you will not get the highest level of rock solid, do all, stability (needing almost no tweaks) up to and until about 3 months after a "release.

1. I say this; because people are adopting Ubuntu; over Windows and OS-X in droves. They think, if the do not get they latest release, it will be old and buggy. No true. They also think, the might not get the absolute newest stuff. That's true. A balance must be adopted. That's why I recommend, new users get the last release; if the new one isn't 3 months old.

While this all may make sense; to developers, the is trouble in paradise and I'm not sure what to do about it. Sometimes, one thing you need, is only on the brand new, to fresh, version. However, if you go to new version (before about 3 months stabilizing) then other stuff is just as much trouble. Said another way; depending on what you are doing (for example: Raw photo development) you can feel stuck in the middle. This is very disconcerting for Windows convert; that may be using a tier (of many) from Microsoft, that at the time, is old. There for something may, for a short time, work only on (like XP) Windows (but with it's glaring cons, like security and time wasted.)

Therfore:

#1 Perhaps the developers can do a better job; of not shifting everything (dev focus) away from the last version; until at least 3 months after a new release. This way, many multiples of different benefits and compatibilities would still carry torch, as the ultimate lesser of evils. Perhaps we need a fall back team and better leadership of it, during said time. It's not like we have finite programmers, such as with the close source world.

#2 in a word, look into back-ports; should you ever feel trapped by the very issue I describe. There you will find development, for just such a "hang back one step" strategy.

It is generally thought, that home users will not perish; if they run into a bug that takes a couple days to get a solution, into the easy upgrade (within tier process). We can do better. We have mission critical users and we can still do better by them. First by what I say next: If you want mission critical, ultimate (over ANYTHING) stability, stay (hang back) with LTS versions, and consider as few back-ports, as possible.

Notes: The inter tier, or inter release UPGRADES are far and away, better than anything on the planet. So much that they are arguably the best reason (among many strong ones) to use Ubuntu, in the first place. Please understand that software is fluid and dynamic today. That is how. The reliability of this has been state of the art.

However, upgrading to the next tier (assisted dist-upgrade)can be very problematic. This is because it can't be coded until we know what we are converting, and that does yet exist, in total. History clearly demonstrates poor experiences, as a percentile (you could be lucky) that are way to high for the risk. Especially, mission critical users, or just home users that want the top most stability. The idea of "just a little bugs", is a slippery slope. Of course, I am mainly speaking of show-stoppers. Not insignificant minutia.

So what then? Bottom line (ultimate stability) is to back up your home folder; and do a quick "clean" install, of the new (older than 3 months and maybe even LTS) version. You see, it's far better to start with a new, unchanged base, that the developers are also working with. plus, doing a new install of Ubuntu is not like the time vampire Windows used to be! The point is, it's a far smaller matter to backup, clean install, and drag your stuff back over. It also better allows a quick do over, of a new install, if you messed up the "foundation" (testing) in some manner. Plus, if you install a new hard drive, you'll need to be doing this anyway. These things are time saving, with Ubuntu, comparatively. Far less time than messing with the in place, managed "upgrade manager" and your resultant pile of software, of the likes no one else has. I know. I know. What about our hours and hours of tweaks and additions. Trust me, the advantage of starting anew, greatly out weights that loss. Perhaps one day, something like Linux Mint Debian will over take Ubuntu. It has rolling releases; which MIGHT fair better, with dist-upgrades. Pros and cons however. Not today.

All that said, no one says you should have to install, over any other past system. Whether Windows, Ubuntu or what have you. I been speaking about getting the ultimate stability. Testing is different. Strictly speaking, mission critical users, including even some home (office) users, especially the non-technical, should install the "next" distribution separately, and use it a while. Heck! I'm really technical, and I want the ultimate stability (balanced). Therefore, if you are not patient enough, DO NOT INSTALL OVER YOUR GOOD WORKING SYSTEM.

Whatever you do, you can't honestly sat Ubuntu doesn't work for you, if you don't try the stable rendition of it, such as I have described. Many a new user, applying close-world ideas, fall right on their face and are loath to admit, they play a part. That's OK, nothing can stop open software and it's fast paced, dynamic improvement; but it can slow things down. Why? Because we all need each other!

If you think about the actually level, of new and better software choices, no built out into several obscure realms (jobs you want to do). Ubuntu is overall, the best ever. (lesser of complex evils)! It's all about the management. Ubuntu is the most time saving, of them all. Experience and wisdom, aptly applied, does help. As with anything.

It's not that bad

Doug.Roberts's picture

Ubuntu 10.10 is not that bad, unless you happen to be unlucky enough to have hardware that worked in previous releases, but now does not due to weaknesses in Canonical's release regression testing.

As I mentioned in the article, 10.10 Desktop works fine on the Dell laptop which does not have the Atheros AR9285 chipset like the Acer Aspire One does. Also, as of this morning, 10.10 Desktop works well on my NVidia M3N78-VM based home entertainment center.

An upcoming article will chronicle the bug reporting steps that were required to get this problem logged with Canonical's bug tracking system.

--Doug

oh you mean 9.10

guitarzan's picture

ya i install 10.04 used it for a couples of days then went back to 9.10, then 10.10 came out, thought this should be fixed now and same thing back to 9.10, the programs i used the most and need the most aren't working to well, they crash or disappear with out saving sh*t but in 9.10 then work without any grief. and the other things that annoys me is when i close a program it takes several seconds to almost a minute before it closes i sent severals bugs in on testing 10.04 but i didn't bother with 10.10 I'll wait to see if they can fix it in the next release.

Kubuntu 10.10 works fine on MAC Book

Anonymous's picture

I have been using ubuntu 10.04 on my MAC Book for the past year. two weeks back I re-installed Kubuntu 10.10 on my MAC book and everything works fine. I find it faster and better. happy to have removed OS X and installed Kubuntu.

Ubuntu 10.10

Anonymous's picture

I gave it a try on my HP Pavilion m7470n, I couldn't log on to the ubuntu share from Windows 7 and XP "\\192.168.0.***\music" didn't work. My O!PLAY HDP-R1 could not see my video share as well. I went back to Ubuntu 10.04 every things works :)

well I have tried ubuntu

Anonymous's picture

well I have tried ubuntu since 9.10. I did the upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 and my regular (not wireless) ethernet stopped working. I can only get it working but by reverting to a kernel that was used with 10.04. but now sound is broken (sometimes will not stop and I have to kill pulse audio with the kill -9 command, and skype sound has stopped totally).

there have been 2 kernels installed since 10.10 and neither works at all on my machine.

to make it worse, I posted on the ubuntu forums asking for help as I am a guy who is using linux to learn, not a guy who is at the level to help others with my knowledge. not one person answered, and I then posted again asking what additional info I could provide. well I can take a hint, not one reply, so much for the great open source community. I will try fedora as I have a feeling that crowd is a bit smaller and perhaps more adept, so goodbye ubuntu. It was fun but when nobody seems remotely interested in helping it makes you go elsewhere. I mean this is not some dinky program that started acting funny, its my friggen networking...

Re: well I have tried ubuntu. (Sound problems)

Anonymous's picture

Do not use (uninstall) pulseaudio if you have problem.
Use alsa only.

Lucid and Wifi

MikeSmith's picture

My broadcom wifi was extremely unstable under Lucid. I tried a buffalo USB airstation g54 and it too was horrible. wicd did not help either. Fortunately I have an old linksys wap54g and dd-wrt working as a client bridge. Linux to the rescue ;)

I doubt it's Ubuntu's fault that the wifi sucks. I bet if chip makers supported linux with drivers, we wouldn't have these issues. So call whomever makes the atheros chipset and gripe at them for not helping.

As for grumbling about hits and misses with Ubuntu, I don't care. I didn't shell out for it, and it isn't an abomination like windows ME, or windows Vista, for which there are no workarounds, save installing linux ;-)
Performance on my hyperthreading 3.06 is better than XP was, and better than vista/7 could ever be.

I'll take linux bugs over windows features any day, and be glad for it. You have to find workarounds for windows too, you just pay a lot for privilege of doing it.

Oh and here's a fun aside.
I am privileged to pay 150 percent of retail for Office 2010 in order to downgrade to Office 2007 so I can connect outlook to my exchange 2000 server. Or spend 20 grand in licensing alone to upgrade exchange for my organization. Instead I'm looking at Feng Office among others.

Not upgrading from LTS

Sajib's picture

I knew that it would be a terrible idea to leave LTS and upgrade to a short-term support release. I tried 10.10 on Live CD and VirtualBox. But I'm sticking with Lucid Lynx for the linux partition on my computer.

Kubuntu 10.10 on Aspire One

RobertoZ's picture

Well new 10.10 is not that perfect (slower than 10.04) but no problem with any hardware: the atheros wifi works as a charme with no fault at all... (see lspci: 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
)
Cheers

Maybe the whole problem with

josvazg's picture

Maybe the whole problem with Ubuntu (and all Linux distros up to now) is the whole "Hey dude, this is free, what did you expect?!" attitude.

It is impossible to reach the masses when regressions are not fixed for long periods of time or when normal users encounter "this does not work" events (those that us geeks solve by "googling" for a solution)

I believe there is nothing particularly wrong with their current release cycle, the only problem is that they DO NOT have people, or not enough people focused in tracking down regressions and/or they are too permissive with themselves in terms of the errors they allow to get slipped/delivered in 'final' releases (for instance, if some improvement has problems, even it is not for all users, you should not deliver it and stick with what you had before up until it is really ready so you can put it in a future final release)

Is QA so expensive that they can't afford it or is it just an attitude problem?
Maybe Ubuntu should find a way to make money in order to be able to provide the QA required to reach the masses.

Google is quite successful in delivering quality software for free. Chrome and Android work quite well compared to its competition, and I bet Chrome OS will also work well, whether it is a successful product or not. But then again Google business model based upon advertising is quite successful in feeding money to them.

Althoug I do agree with you I

Carlos Costa's picture

Althoug I do agree with you I still believe that is not the main issue with linux since microsoft products are expensive, have a much longer release interval and usually show more problems in the initial releases than Ubuntu does but still the public does not care.

"These flaws, IMO, should

Anonymous's picture

"These flaws, IMO, should probably have been caught in beta or RC before finding themselves in the actual release." What?! Dude, it's free.

Dude

Doug.Roberts's picture

I'm a FOSS developer myself, dude. That doesn't mean that I should accept lax standards and poor QA.

--Doug

"I'm a FOSS developer myself,

jackd's picture

"I'm a FOSS developer myself, dude. That doesn't mean that I should accept lax standards and poor QA"

But it does mean you know how to file a good bug report, right?

Funny you should ask

Doug.Roberts's picture

My next article chronicles the Ubuntu bug reporting process that I used to report this problem.

--Doug

High five Doug

jshailes's picture

High five Doug

Judging a release by how it

Justin L's picture

Judging a release by how it reacted to your specific hardware is not useful.

This reads like a bug report with a fancy heading.

kernel problem

carolinason's picture

exactly this sounds like a kernel issue.

Disagree

Doug.Roberts's picture

This is a release regression testing issue, regardless of whether the bug is in a kernel, a module, or a user space program. It should have been detected prior to the release of 10.10. This particular Atheros driver problem has been in and out of Ubuntu releases since 8.10, at least. It should not have been allowed to sneak back into a release version of Ubuntu.

--Doug

I disagree

Anonymous's picture

The review was very helpful. If I owned an Acer netbook I'd want to know that Ubuntu 10.10 would not run on it before I tried installing it. Likewise it is most useful to know that it worked on the Dell.

Your comment reads like something someone who just loves to bitch about other people's work would write.

Huh?

goody's picture

Doug Roberts said: "Ubuntu’s release cycle, this one is a short-term support release which will be patched and modified up until it eventually morphs into the next long term release about six months from now."

Ummm, the next LTS is 18 months from now. Doesn't anyone research anything?

Wireless issues

Tore Skevik's picture

Have you tried replacing NetworkManager with Wicd? That has done the trick for me using both Ubuntu, Fedora, Arch and several other distros that I've tried. The connection issues has been there across distros and kernels, but when I kicked NetworkManager to the curb and tried Wicd, everything worked like a charm!

Yes

Doug.Roberts's picture

I did replace NetworkManager with Wicd, because one of my search results on this problem had suggested that NetworkManager and Unity were not playing well together. It turns out that using Wicd made no difference. Neither did installing the Desktop image, as I noted in another comment below. It really does look like Canonical let a bad, untested Atheros driver slip into their release versions of 10.10.

--Doug

For completeness

Doug.Roberts's picture

Somebody suggested in one of the comments below that the problem lay in the Unity UNE shell where the network manager was not properly working. To test this I installed the 10.10 Desktop image on the Acer Aspire One. The result is the same behavior -- the Atheros wireless cannot stay connected, with or without the linux-backports-modules-wireless package installed.

--Doug

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Private PaaS for the Agile Enterprise

If you already use virtualized infrastructure, you are well on your way to leveraging the power of the cloud. Virtualization offers the promise of limitless resources, but how do you manage that scalability when your DevOps team doesn’t scale? In today’s hypercompetitive markets, fast results can make a difference between leading the pack vs. obsolescence. Organizations need more benefits from cloud computing than just raw resources. They need agility, flexibility, convenience, ROI, and control.

Stackato private Platform-as-a-Service technology from ActiveState extends your private cloud infrastructure by creating a private PaaS to provide on-demand availability, flexibility, control, and ultimately, faster time-to-market for your enterprise.

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