Linux in Government: Will Schwarzenegger Terminate Windows?

If he can see the predators hiding in the political jungle, he may.

In a paper called "The Open Source Desktop Experience", Michael Cave--knowingly or not--assumes the role of a cleverly camouflaged comrade. Follow the argument made in that paper, and it will undermine Governor Schwarzenegger's budget saving open-source initiative in California.

Whereas other Californians have described real financial savings over a period of years in a paper called "SO10 Explore Open Source Alternatives", Cave presents a misleading view of open-source desktops. The savings discussed in the SO10 paper are available, and we discuss them below.

Open Source at the State Level

Having started an open-source initiative in Texas, I can identify many of the pitfalls appearing on the horizon for California. As a former resident of southern California, I understood the unfriendly business climate and the power of special interests in the state, as described by Governor Schwarzenegger during his campaign.

Special interests will attempt to undermine open-source efforts. Although many consider California to be a progressive state, fiscally conservative Republicans have had the most success in achieving open-source adoption. Consider, for example, Governor Mitt Romney, the Republican governor of Massachusetts. In January of this year, through the Executive Office for Administration and Finance, he issued a final policy on the use of open-source software and open standards. The policy requires commonwealth officials to consider all relevant factors, including the potential for excessive dependence on a single supplier, before they spend taxpayer money on information technology.

After failures in Oregon and Texas, Governor Romney's actions came as a breath of fresh air to groups advocating open-source software. Following the order, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, Utah, Missouri, Kansas, Virginia and West Virginia joined Massachusetts in forming the Government Open Code Collaborative Repository, which any state and/or municipality can join and contribute open-source applications and technology for other governments units.

Open Source at the Federal Level

Aside from cutting existing costs in California, new technologies required under the Department of Homeland Security could burden taxpayers further. The President's SmartBuy program and its federally sponsored open-source repository, Core.gov, will help eliminate the costs of complying with new standards. Novell, an open-source vendor, describes SmartBuy as "an initiative of the federal government to support effective enterprise level software management through the aggregate buying of commercial software government-wide in an effort to achieve bulk savings". Novell also says that it has:

created a series of special SmartBuy software offerings and service levels, including special product SmartBuy bundles for infrastructure, Linux servers and desktops, web services, and, soon, secure identity management. These bundles will provide federal customers flexibility on both deployment and pricing, as well as significantly easing the contract negotiation and licensing process for individual agencies.

The SmartBuy program goes beyond aggregating IT purchases. On July 1, 2004, the Executive Office of the President of the United States issued a memorandum for Senior Procurement Executives and Chief Information Officers. The memorandum emphasizes the President's previous memorandum titled "Maximizing Use of SmartBuy and Avoiding Duplication of Agency Activities". In this latest memorandum, OMB 04-16, the President issued the following statements:

This reminder applies to acquisitions of all software, whether it is proprietary or Open Source Software. Open Source Software's source code is widely available so it may be used, copied, modified, and redistributed. It is licensed with certain common restrictions, which generally differ from proprietary software. Frequently, the licenses require users who distribute Open Source Software, whether in its original form or as modified, to make the source code widely available. Subsequent licenses usually include the terms of the original license, thereby requiring wide availability. These differences in licensing may affect the use, the security, and the total cost of ownership of the software and must be considered when an agency is planning a software acquisition.

Based on these memoranda, it would appear that the federal government as well as other states certainly will assist California implement its savings plans

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The link for the first article changed.

In a paper called "The Open Source Desktop Experience", the link should be

http://www.arb.ca.gov/oss/desktop/desktoptest.htm

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The URL http://www.arb.ca.gov/oss/desktoptest.htm appears not to be working anymore. I would appreciate anyone who could tell me what happened to it.

Scott Mace
scottmace@wiredmuse.com
http://scottmace.typepad.com/imanager/

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They moved it or Tom mistyped it.
http://www.arb.ca.gov/oss/desktop/desktoptest.htm
(as of 9.24.04)
hjm@tacgi.com

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Someone removed it from the web site after LJ brought it to people's attention. Mr. Cave was obviously anti-Linux in his assessment, which probably provided motivation for this article.

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>I joined him in his office just north of the Santa Monica >Freeway and Interstate 35.

Is this a joke? I don't recall ever having a Santa Monica Freeway in Austin.

C.K.

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He's a transplanted Californian. Interstate 10 runs through Santa Monica and ends at the pacific. It's referred to as the Santa Monica Freeway. Interstate 10 and 35 intersect in San Antonio. North of that would be Austin.

Sounds like he's put a little humor in an otherwise serious article since Arnold is in California.

Just a guess.

Won't save taxpayers money

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Linux/Open Source can't save taxpayers any money. It will save the government money, sure, but they'll just spend the money somewhere else -- somewhere it will do more harm than spending on software. I'm all for the government (state and federal) using Windows -- they're great fans of the "broken window fallacy"!

[Arnie's one of the better ones, though]

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Yes, like M$ will let them.

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Microsoft has a say in his decision.

Interesting. Thanks for your point of view.

Any others?

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So, what do you think. Will the Governator do an executive order and take the state open-source?

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He's got to save money. He'll do it.

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Beside the title of the article, it is the statement political bickering isn't exactly... that inspired me to highlight, how it appears to me that some participants drive all their opinions on their or on their sponsors political views. The fact is that open source as well as Linux are in a battle with M$, and $$$ as far as they battle on the field of intellectual property. It is outrageous that one can support the idea that our thoughts could be patented. That is not to say that intellectual work should not be protected against theft, and nobody is saying that one should not be able to make money by applying market principles to the intellectual property. This is the core of the problem and every else is just a facade

Of course, behind the obvious x$$$ visible to all is a much more profound technical sphere. To most of the "true professionals" it is clear that "open technologies" are superior in all technical aspects to the commercial alternatives. In fact most of commercial success stories are built on "open *". The lies that M$ is spreading about "open*" fits many who are really spreading viruses, penetrating quasi technical forums, an masquerading as agitators of X while they collect bonuses ($$$) from Y. It is all masquerade. And guess what "open*" community knows all about it, it fights it with all it has - that is knowledge and tools it possesses, BTW neither of which can claim the opposition.

Why do you think M$ is associating Linux and GPL with viruses? Not only because their, government and different other mafia like organizations and their agents use these dirty means in fights between each other, but even more so because, "open*" has a much better solution against chaos, disorder and insecurity on the Internet, which if applied would prevent most of the "evil" agencies, I mentioned earlier, to function!

- Vladimir

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Maybe, just maybe people don't want to comprehend the workings of a squirelly mind. I'm just spitballing, of course. Maybe he is all you seem to state.

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That's how ignorance is proliferated. Scare tactics built into an acceptance rules. Whereas in fact you are afraid to be obsolete in a system where knowledge counts. I couldn't care less about your opinion, which doesn't carry any substance but a personal attack on something that is totally beyond your comprehension.

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When people see disjointed, deviate and scrambled comments like this --they want to run the other direction. If you were a business owner and saw this, you'd probably say -- I don't want anyone like this working for me. Maybe that's why they avoid Linux. I wouldn't blame them. I'd think - this is the kind of person who might go postal. I figure you'll want to answer this, but you might want to take it to slashdot. Maybe if you wrote one of your little tirades, they would post the article and then Linux Journal could be awash with idiots.

What am I saying, don't push that button, no no wait, don't --- it's too late ;

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SuSE is integrated into the NetWare product line. It has not only a client as Cave pointed out in his article, but it's fully supported by Novell. Novell would have little problem configuring the client and shared folders for Cave.

Does this mean there's an official Novell Client for Linux? Can you give us some details?

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It's fine, but not official. It also does not offer everything that Novell clients do (single-sign-on, for example).

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Terry - political bickering isn't exactly what people need to see at the end of this article to want to support the California effort. Why here? (Don't answer that).

-Tom

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Dream on; M$ is very quick to knock in with their "charity" in the name of helping to "educate" America. On the other hand Government, also pays millions of Dollars for M$ equipment to be shipped overseas as military and perhaps even humanitarian help to those countries who are in line, all with the approvals and blessings of the elected "public" representatives. What a farce? You two are trying to paint a nice picture in a pile of mud.

Yes, I do believe that education system can be used to promote an idea, a technology, and I welcome the greedy republicans efforts to save money by putting a Linux box on very student's desk. But as I said before M$ isn't gonna watch how the young are being thought to love a better technology!

- Vlad

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I too was once a victim of communist brain washing like you , but now that I am free of that, I wish not to take this cynical view of people and call them names and sling the mud around.

But, I can see the poison takes too many years to leave on person's body and mind. I recall that this governor - governator - Austrian did not so much like being a socialist. So, you need shut up and quit the poison. Or you can create your own hell hole like you live in now.

-Tyve

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How many did you get to fall for that story of yours about brainwashing ? Very clever. I'm happy for you. Do not forget what we are talking about here. It has nothing to do with your input.

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I do not consider this to be an old fashioned flame war. There are many issues being discussed, and most do in a way touch Linux/open*. I just do not like the idea of riding or betting on the political horses here.

Nevertheless, one can not completely ignore the political dimension. Hence, I believe it is worth pointing out that this is the war for technological dominance mostly between the governing and the powerful, who, with exception of those working with/for open technologies, really have no knowledge or any concept of the technology with which they are dealing, beyond the pertinent stock market indices. It is ridiculous to believe that any kind of government would support open initiative since they not only do not understand it, at the end of the day they find out they need M$ to help them out due to their inherent incompetence.

Do you think that teachers will know how to handle Linux ? Right here you have the perfect breading ground for a sabotage. And it will be even less expensive for M$ to organize it than if they had to supply their "$olution" at a discount to the very government they would happy bring down due to an "M$ unfriendly decree"!

Lets face it, as much as I would like Linux/open* to be embraced by general population, I believe this will never happen, because it is not a solution for an average mouse clicker. For the same reason those that fear Linux/open* revolution should relax. It ain't gonna grow into a popular uprising, however, it will destroy M$, and perhaps even IBM - who contrary to the popular opinion created RedHat not to help but rather destroy Linux/open* for that matter, of that I am sure!

- Vladimir

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That's certainly one point of view. But with all your "let's face its" and the "general population" and "it ain't gonna happen" and "sabatage" generalizations, -- at the end of the day, you don't know any more than the rest of us what will end up happening.

At some point, people have to take a look at themselves and confront their denial. You are a bag of beliefs and your passion for those beliefs don't make them universal truth. You might inflame the same passion in other prejudiced people with scant experience in the real world. In the end you're still a bag of opinions and superficial when it comes to emperical knowledge. Generalizations, rationalizations, reasons, excuses and belives included.

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You just can't get beyond seeking for a person behind her/his opinion. Empirical knowledge at one point is expressed in terms of opinions. It shows how little you know about the state of modern computing and technical battles behind the struggle to control the information.

There is not enough time nor space here to discuss empirical data and analysis that stand behind the statements like M$ and IBM will be replaced by new organizations capable of dealing with better and superior technology than theirs currently developed, owned and nurtured by "Open*" ..., or that teachers can't handle Linux ... It would be counter productive to explain it all. The input to this "opinions" or "beliefs" as you like to dismiss them, is a side product of long and hard work, that deals with technical realities and not with those which you are riding.

If you think these are just beliefs unsupported with any kind of hard facts, that's your belief and your purgative, and if it will make you happy, and yes, you are right any fact can be viewed as an opinion, a belief, a truth or a lie. Only time will tell, only time will tell ...

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any fact can be viewed as an opinion, a belief, a truth or a lie. Only time will tell, only time will tell ...

Erm..no. A fact is a fact. If it can be disputed (by a person behaving in a sane manner), that's not a fact. Facts are things like "it rained today", "a circle cannot be a square", "money spent on A cannot be spent on B" (for some A and B, and talking about the same person doing the spending) ... and the single most important fact ever stated: "humans act".

Everything you can know, with absolute incontrovertible certainty, can necessarily be derived through the use of logic from such apodictic facts. The fact that "humans act" is the founding axiom on which the entire science of praxeology (the best-known subject of praxeology is (Austrian school) economics) is built. I.e., contrary to popular belief, economics is an exact science (more so than physics: physics is built on mere observation -- you don't (and can't) know anything in physics is true, only that it appears to work, so far. In economics, you can know with absolute certainty, that if your premises are true (and the only premise is "humans act", which is obviously true), and your logic is correct, your conclusions are inescapably true. People who do a lot of math and call it economics have no clue, though.)

Empirical "knowledge" is not really knowledge at all.

[BTW, admin person: the "HTML Formated" label on option selector in the comment-posting form should be spelled "HTML Formatted"]

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And saying only time will tell is also just another way of saying my opinion is right. Here's the thing, you haven't given up on believing your own bs.

Your mental image pictures are only that. They aren't necessarily true or false, just mental image pictures.

You also can't stop making yourself right by making others wrong.

If you gave that up, you'd have to redefine yourself. You have no idea what I do and don't know about technology. You again assume for purposes of justifying your belief system.

Here's the bottom line. I agreed with this author and I see the possibility of fulfilling the promise of FLOSS. I don't believe the ends justy the means.

But, your discussion did not forward the action, it made for some interestng observations. By you are obviously an intelligent man. You could easily channel your life force toward goodness.

I hope you do that.

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I didn't count. But face it, we haven't had an old fashioned flame war like this in a while.

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I did not intend to engage in political bickering, for the simple reason that I do not see any correlation between party affiliation and open source advocacy. Mr. Adelstein's article points out some excellent efforts by some Republicans, but (rightly, IMO) does not use that to condemn non-Republicans nor to suggest that all Republicans are open source advocates. The respondent to my original comment tried to paint all Democrats as anti-open source, which just seems ludicrous to me.

Mr. Adelstein's article is mainly one of hope and good news. I expect those who are directly involved in efforts to get open source more widely adopted in governments will find it helpful.

The OMB memorandum just looks more like a warning than advocacy, to me, though. I have no idea whether President Bush ever actually read it before signing, or, if he did, whether any advisor might have pointed out the subtleties of the connections between those phrases and Microsoft's efforts. I doubt the GPL ever makes it onto the President's daily agenda in policy discussions. The point is that Microsoft exerts influence just about anywhere they find that someone is proposing the use of open source in government, education or industry.

No offense nor trolling intended.

T.V.

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Excellent points. Perhaps we can learn from the past failures and win one.

Political differences between two independent parties in the same country, under the same system of governance has nothing to do with this.

The real condition as the article points out has to do with overkill. Why should the same 3500 counties in the US have to pay for the same software 3500 times, when they can make it open source and let everyone download it?

In government, it seems that the citizen keeps pay over and over for the same thing. Why do they have to do it? They paid for the research that created the Internet, why should they pay someone to repackage it for them when they'll throw the box away after they open it?

Funny, when you think about it. Like gallows laughter.

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It's a take off on Arnold's Movies - The Terminator which he's morphed into the Governator. The sub title uses the Predator idea - another of Arnold's famous movies.

It's propaganda if you see it that way. It's a catchy title. I guess people who believe in propaganda as an art form might see it that way.

Then, some literary types have survived the purges.

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Political bickering? That is how the article's title is used in a propagandistic manner!

- Vladimir.

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The article tries to pump up Linux in a bunch claims that are rather immaterial. It steers up emotions that are based on beliefs of the readers. Why does it look to me like a abuse of religious ideas by those in power, What escapes the eye, is that Micro$oft in some areas has powers the government would like to have, and not surprisingly v.v.

We "second class" citizens are offended by the way www accepts or rejects our favorite browser and drum support for whoever we affiliate with in the process pitting M$ against the government or vv. In fact this is the battle of the giants for domination, and what again escapes the eye is that Open Source is our giant, we represent it, it is us against them. Them being the M$ and the government, regardless who takes office republicans or democrats, or communists for that matter.

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Why create a you or me world? That's the fundamental ground of being for which allows the persistent of captives.

Freedom - which open-source software advocates, is a you and me world. The only reason to drive off someone like M$ is that fact that they insist that we give up our freedom. Enemis of freedom must be dealt with or there can beno freedom.

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True, but Microsoft is not the enemy of freedom. Well, OK, perhaps it is, but it's an irrelevant one. The true enemy of freedom is ... government. Microsoft is harmless without the power of government backing it up.

silly nitpick

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Austin doesn't have a Santa Monica Freeway. But it's a good article, though, and I look forward to seeing what the Governator does in CA.

Re: silly nitpick

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I think it was a reference to Interstate 10 which Californias call the 10 and also the Santa Monica Freeway. I believe the 10 and the 35 intersect in San Antonio.

He was playing with us.

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I'd wager he, as a transplanted californian, was refering to interstate 10 which terminates in the west in santa monica and is therefore refered to as the "santa monica freeway" out there.

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I dont know about wagering but you may get on the Karl Rove staff of spin writers to cover the many dumb things we hear from W.

Ok, Karl Rove that's a bit much, how about NewsCorp, now there's a future for you.

C.K.

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Nicely done!

I see a more ominous message lurking within:

This reminder applies to acquisitions of all software, whether it is proprietary or Open Source Software. Open Source Software's source code is widely available so it may be used, copied, modified, and redistributed. It is licensed with certain common restrictions, which generally differ from proprietary software. Frequently, the licenses require users who distribute Open Source Software, whether in its original form or as modified, to make the source code widely available. Subsequent licenses usually include the terms of the original license, thereby requiring wide availability. These differences in licensing may affect the use, the security, and the total cost of ownership of the software and must be considered when an agency is planning a software acquisition.

The buzzphrase, "total cost of ownership", smells rankly of Microsoft. The dire warnings about making the source code available likewise smells of Microsoft. Rather than the President being a supporter of open source, I contend he is simply piping the Microsoft line through to government agencies and that will provide openings for Microsoft representatives to convince agency heads to steer clear of any GPL software.

Microsoft repeatedly gets the GPL wrong. (I believe they do this deliberately, but can't prove that belief). As a single entity, a government is not required to make the source available for modifications it distributes "in-house", for this is not truly distribution under the GPL. Microsoft continues to spread the FUD that the GPL is "viral" and can lead to the unintentional, forced publication of source. This gross misrepresentation of the GPL is then used to convince decision makers to stick with the software they've become accustomed to (due to illegal monopolistic practices) rather than change to more robust, cheaper, standards-compliant, open software.

Directly and by proxy, Microsoft continues a campaign of disinformation to maintain and expand its monopoly. We need to consistently and doggedly refute their distortions as and where they are encountered. Their business model has been shown to be dangerous, expensive, and damaging to all who prefer freedom and a competitive market.


Terry Vessels

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Bush didn't draft the OMB circular. Karen Evans did and she's a known proponents and sponsor of open source in government. Check with firms like DevIS - Peter Gallagher's open source shop that got the DOL to GPL a product he built.

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Nice try. It's pretty well known inside the beltway and up in Boston that Democrats are anti-open source. They get lots of funding from the people who insist on copyrights and patents.

Bush is a known proponent of open source. But, the open-source community finds that counter intuitive.

The liberal media establishment (all the newspapers and television stations in th e US) want you to hate Bush. And like good little libs, we tootle along and in our hatred for Bush and Microsoft couple them.

Here's the unfortunate news -- David Boise ran the government's case against Microsoft all the way to the end. That includes after the Democratic administration departed.

Now, he was also Gore's attorney protesting the Flordia vote.

He also got his first paycheck from money provided by Microsoft to SCO.

Considering he has a record for not liking Bush, a record for letting Microsoft off easy and a record for trying to kill Linux --- well connect the dots yursef.

So Terry, as much as we all want it to be true, your speculation is off about as far as the hurricane is from Redmond.

As much as it pains people, being on the inside -- the commander-in-chief is an open source -- really -- proponent.

Liberal Media

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Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!

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I must have gotten some really funny Kool-Aid [tm].

Nice try. It's pretty well known inside the beltway and up in Boston that Democrats are anti-open source. They get lots of funding from the people who insist on copyrights and patents.

Who knows this and how? It's news to me. Google can't seem to find anything authoritative, either. It just turns up more unsupported political rants such as your own. If you remove your pro-one-party blinders, you may find that there are career politicians in each of the major parties who seem more intent on maintaining large campaign war chests than in taking care of their constituents.

If you actually look at the news, you will find there are also members of each party who seem to be dedicated to straightening out problems. Politicians, regardless of party affiliation, are people, too. As such, they run the full gamut from scoundrels to heroes.

Bush is a known proponent of open source. But, the open-source community finds that counter intuitive.

How is he a proponent?
By accepting campaign contributions from Microsoft,
and thereby reducing
Microsoft's slush fund against Linux?
Clever, indeed.

The liberal media establishment (all the newspapers and television stations in th e US) want you to hate Bush. And like good little libs, we tootle along and in our hatred for Bush and Microsoft couple them.

That's an amazing leap. Let's see, that "liberal media establishment" is mostly a handful of very large corporations which pay large sums of money to keep lobbyists bending the ears of both parties. Has President Bush been anti-business during his term, to make those corporations "want [me] to hate Bush"? Learn to follow the money. The purpose of a corporation is to make profits. They calculate expenditures and returns on investments. Whether the label says "Republican" or "Democrat" has less effect on those expenditures than whether the label says "favorable ROI".

Here's the unfortunate news -- David Boise ran the government's case against Microsoft all the way to the end. That includes after the Democratic administration departed.

So David Boise is responsible for the appearance of Microsoft buzz-phrases within the Presidential memorandum, because the liberal media establishment wants me to hate President Bush?

Now, he was also Gore's attorney protesting the Flordia vote.

Aha! The clever conspiracy begins to make sense. David Boise and that anti-open source Democrat Al Gore plotted to lose the election for Gore so that Boise could take a major anti-trust case against Microsoft and turn it into what has since become known as "The Seattlement" in order to fuel the liberal media establishment's goal of getting me to hate President Bush for David Boise inserting carbon copies of Microsoft's arguments against the GPL into an executive memorandum related to the procurement of software by the government! I would never have suspected.

He also got his first paycheck from money provided by Microsoft to SCO.

Wait. I'm confused. How does the SCO laughing stock lawsuit connect to the memorandum on governmental procurement of software?

Considering he has a record for not liking Bush, a record for letting Microsoft off easy and a record for trying to kill Linux --- well connect the dots yursef.

I'm trying, I really am. We started with this:

Frequently, the licenses require users who distribute Open Source Software, whether in its original form or as modified, to make the source code widely available. Subsequent licenses usually include the terms of the original license, thereby requiring wide availability. These differences in licensing may affect the use, the security, and the total cost of ownership of the software and must be considered when an agency is planning a software acquisition.

... which I contend reads like it came straight from Microsoft, and may therefore indicate someone from Microsoft did some lobbying to get the phrasing just right, with the possible intent of using that phrasing to pitch their own product to heads of government agencies. We then jumped to it being "well-known [...] that Democrats are anti-open source", a liberal media establishment trying to get me to "hate Bush", David Boise's dismal record of highly publicized lawsuits, and a connect-the-dots game left as an exercise for the reader.

I'm sorry, when I connect your dots, it just looks like random scribbling, still.

So Terry, as much as we all want it to be true, your speculation is off about as far as the hurricane is from Redmond.

So, whoever you are, as much as I want to see whatever enlightening illustration you've created with these dots, I just can't manage to figure it out.

As much as it pains people, being on the inside -- the commander-in-chief is an open source -- really -- proponent.

Saying it doesn't make it so. Show me the code. It's fairly easy to follow the money trail in many cases. For others, Microsoft helpfully leaves a trail of overworked marketing phrases to show they've been there. (Try this little experiment: every time you find some commercial website that prominently features the phrase "innovative technology", run the URL by Netcraft's "What's that site running?" and see if you think maybe there was some kind of discount going on at some time. Keep track of the percentages).

I stand by my initial comments. That's why I put my name on them. You have presented nothing to dissuade me from my suspicion that the phrasing of the memorandum looks like it was influenced by Microsoft. It does not matter whether President Bush was directly influenced by Microsoft or was too busy to recognize the holes that phrasing opens. The effect is the same because of the weight his words carry with government agencies procuring software. The holes in the settlement have the same effect whether the Department of Justice put them there deliberately or not: the same anti-competitive monopoly is still in place, with no sign of any restoration of the market.

Microsoft has called the GPL "viral" and a "cancer". They have repeatedly glossed over the conditions under which you are not required to distribute modified source code, in order to support their "viral" argument. They have repeatedly tried to convince the world that open source must be less secure because it is not guarded like Microsoft's code. Microsoft has harped on
total cost of ownership
so long that it's becoming a household phrase.

No, I see no wide-ranging conspiracy, just some short-term, short-sighted greed overwhelming seeds of enlightened self-interest. It's an illustration of why anti-trust laws should be vigorously enforced. A monopoly in one market is a threat to all markets. As it swallows markets, it can grow to such size and influence that it can curtail the government intervention necessary to stop the monopoly's destruction of competitive markets. This is not a Democrat versus Republican battle. This is not a liberal versus conservative battle. It goes even deeper than capitalism and fascism. It's about personal freedom.

I'm already a second-class citizen because I use Linux. Signs are being erected all over the global network which read, in essence, "Microsoft Only". I won't use Microsoft products (nor be used by them), so there are many establishments which will not serve me. I won't use Microsoft products, so I am denied access to documents produced by my state government, using public funds, presented on a publicly funded website, in Microsoft-only formats. No non-Microsoft colored citizens allowed. If you will not speak the official Microsoft language, you are not welcome.

While Microsoft is not the only one attempting to usurp control of information and information flow, they are the largest, most influential threat, now. Republican vs. Democrat is petty compared to this battle.


Terry Vessels

Re: Linux in Government: Will Schwarzenegger Terminate Windows?

Anonymous's picture

Interested AC responds:

I find this thread pretty funny. It belongs on slashdot or moveon.org not on Linux journal.

It's well known that Microsoft's funding of political candidates is about 50-50 democratc vs republicans. So, it's stupid rhetoric to blame bush and say he accepts money from microsoft to influence his decisions. What microsoft gives is less than .00001 of either kerry's or bush's funds.

Googling for Bush's & Open Source (sig) is stupid - he'd be stupid to go on the record on something as insignificant. Gore passed the act that created the Internet, the National Science Foundation opened it to the public, butGore didn't know open source from mountain dew.

Here's something you can find on google - the DoD uses Linux extensively. Open Source code has been validated by NIST; NSA gave us Security Enhanced Linux; the Navy, Air Force and Marines have lots of mssion critical open source applications; DOL. GSA and the State Department use open source.

That didn't have before 9/11.

Re: Linux in Government: Will Schwarzenegger Terminate Windows?

Anonymous's picture

That just doesn't fit my reality. Give me a break!

Re: Linux in Government: Will Schwarzenegger Terminate Windows?

Anonymous's picture

Ah, anyone can criticize. So typical.

How about cutting his some slack, realize he's a newbie and lend a hand?

That would be a change of pace for this community.

Re: Linux in Government: Will Schwarzenegger Terminate Windows?

Anonymous's picture

How about cutting his some slack, realize he's a newbie and lend a hand?

Ummm...he did? beware the advisor who gives you tainted advice.

Re: Linux in Government: Will Schwarzenegger Terminate Windows?

oden's picture

It's a little sad you can't visit http://www.schwarzenegger.com/ with konqueror..., you get "PUMP UP YOUR BROWSER!". If you're unaware, konqueror is OpenSource (part of KDE), where's the quality control Mr. Terminator?

Regards // Oden Eriksson

Re: Linux in Government: Will Schwarzenegger Terminate Windows?

Anonymous's picture

i got the same thing with opera browser (www.opera.com) but ...

if i configure the quick options (f12), telling thas this browser identifies like MSIE 6.0... voila, it wokrs...

so i conclude that the limitation of browsers is onlly by desing... (politics??, programamers??)

j.-

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