Penguins for President?

Is there any significance to what Web server/platform combinations 2004 presidential candidates are using?

As we swing into the thick of the 2004 electoral playoffs, it's interesting to see what kinds of platforms are running under the candidates' official campaign Web sites. Netcraft has a handy feature called "What's that site running?" that lets us see combinations of Web servers and OS platforms. So here's a quick rundown, in alphabetical order:

For what it's worth, the Republican National Committee is running Microsoft IIS on Windows 2000, while the Democratic National Committee is running Apache on Linux.

As of this writing, November 5, 2003, the RNC has an uptime of 4.26 days (maximum of 39.04) and a 90-day moving average of 16.91. The DNC has an uptime of 445.02 days (also the maximum) and a 90-day moving average of 395.38 days.

Draw your own conclusions.

Doc Searls is Senior Editor of Linux Journal.

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Re: Penguins for President?

Anonymous's picture

Obviously a Republican that feels ashamed of the facts.

Re: Penguins for President?

Anonymous's picture

Posting the same whiny comment twice is retarded. No offense.

Re: Penguins for President?

Anonymous's picture

I agree. Whiny trolls should go elsewhere.

Re: Penguins for President?

Anonymous's picture

... I somehow doubt the question "Windows or UN*X?" was really high in their "Should I host here?" question. This "survey" and what it implies is retarded. No offense.

yeah

Anonymous's picture

both parties suck. The libertarian party runs FreeBSD, and also has a high uptime.

The republicans need to realize that throwing money at corporations doesn't help America, particularly with regard to software. The democrats need to realize that socialism doesn't work outside of software. Both parties need to stop taking my money for the agendas of others.

Re: yeah

Anonymous's picture

Although i think the libertarians are a bit too extreme for my tastes, you rock.

(disclaimer - I don't know much about the libertarians, sorry).

Re: yeah

Anonymous's picture

They are like republicans, only they have a couple of good ideas.

But their idea of fiscal policy will still completely destroy the nation and make anyone who is not currently rich absolutely poor.

The republicans have proven that mass deregulation doesn't work in many cases, and the libertarians pretend that that never happened...even more so that the republicans...

Re: yeah

Anonymous's picture

huuummm.
We are just as much like republicans as we are like democrats (both of which are destroying this country). The republicans are busy destroying personal freedoms at rate not seen in the USA since WWII as they are doing the deficit.

As to Deregulation, it works where monopolies are not legally given. Good example is the airlines.They are competitive and prices are held down AFTER deregulations and de-monopilatization was done.

Power and energy is a very good example of deregulation done wrong. It was done, but did not de-monopolize the industry. A good example is Colorado. We dereged, but Excell (actually XO) has a virtual monopoly here via the transmission rather than the production (which is why our costs are now equal to the rest of the US, rather than being one of the lowest).

Nope - dereg does not work

Anonymous's picture

The airlines are competitive??

Is that why they keep going bankrupt, costing working people their jobs and costing citizens multi-millions of dollars? Only to be resurrected again at the people's expense, so that their execs can be paid off.

You want true dereg, then it's sink or swim. Not the constant corporate welfare that ultimately costs the taxpayers. But I guess being narrow-minded doesn't rely on reality.

Re: Nope - dereg does not work

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The bailouts are separate from the deregs. The deregs DID make them compete. Now, when some went under, the government stepped. That was stupid, but it has nothing to do with deregulation.

True deregulation allows for freedom in innovation. Computers are the most unregulated industry, which has caused their explosive growth. Things like Linux exist because of deregulation. If computer software was a regulated industry, Linux could never have taken off - what company would have put up the money to make sure it passed regulations and got certified, especially in its early days?

Re: Penguins for President?

Anonymous's picture

Poor Joe can't catch a break, even in an alphabetical listing he still comes in behind Sharpton and Mosely-Braun.

Re: Penguins for President?

Doc's picture

Sorry. My bad.

Re: Penguins for President?

Anonymous's picture

Your not sorry. You did that on purpose because you hate Joe because he's a hawk and Jewish and you couldn't persecute him for having the Wrong Webhosting Company doing his website.

Re: Penguins for President?

Anonymous's picture

No, he did in intentionally to help poor Joe. (I wonder if Doc is Jewish :-) Last place is so much more visible than somewhere in the middle.

Re: Penguins for President?

Anonymous's picture

Poor Joe? Umm, a Democrat we want, yes. Joe we do not.

Re: Penguins for President?

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Ummm NO, not WE.

Some of us work for a living and are tired of supporting worthless wastes of air who cant get to work but have no problem collecting their welfare checks on time every month.

Vote Libertarian if you truly value your freedom, which by the way, is *not* free.

Re: Penguins for President?

Anonymous's picture

Gee Al, don't blame Joe for not making the cut....

Re: Penguins for President?

Anonymous's picture

Sounds like the DNC needs to patch their OS more often.

Re: Penguins for President?

Anonymous's picture

Instead of assuming other operating systems require a reboot every time one moves a mouse like Windows, run the domain through Netcraft yourself to get some version information.

Patch

Anonymous's picture

You can patch a Linux system without rebooting. The only exception is if you want to change to a new kernel, but most patches are about system libraries or applications. Of course, in Windows you would have to reboot, which probably explains the difference in uptimes.

Re: Penguins for President?

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What is a "moving average"?

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The only thing that has not been said is that moving averages serve a "smoothing" purpose that eliminates powerful erratic variations and exposes the long term tendencies much more clearly.

Simply the average for the last 90 days

Anonymous's picture

The 90-day moving average for tomorrow will drop the earliest day (90 days ago) and add the current day's uptime into the average.

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A flat FIR filter.

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http://mathworld.wolfram.com/MovingAverage.html

As an example, you have data for the past 60 days, and a rough moving average could be computed by averaging the totals on these intervals:

Days 1-30, 6-35, 11-40, 16-45, 21-50, 26-55, 31-60

To be very meaningful, I'd wonder what the interval was (likely checked every week or so) and how far back the moving average went.

Re: Penguins for President?

Anonymous's picture

an average taken for a fixed domain set, but that set can change. Usually used to track averages for the "most recent" set of data. A moving average on uptime usually means "the last 30 days" or whatever.

Tells you how it's been doing lately.

Re: Penguins for President?

Anonymous's picture

It's the average number of people who have:

A) had to move out of their homes due to foreclosure because they lost their jobs in the Bush economy

B) moved out of the US (possibly brought on by A))

Re: Penguins for President?

Anonymous's picture

Oh yeah, I forgot the economy is bad because of what the President has done. Not because of the stock market crash or September 11 or anything like that.

Rememind me again, exactly what did Bush do to wreck the economy???

Re: Penguins for President?

Anonymous's picture

He allowed his corporate cronies to rip off their share holders and customers to the tune of billions of dollares, which trashed investor's confidence in our stock and financial markets. Did you miss that whole Enron thing?

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Anonymous's picture

He exudes stupidity. Doesn't make me real confident that he'll turn anything around except maybe that dog of his.

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Rememind[sic] me again, exactly what did Bush do to wreck the economy???

How about a gigantic tax cut for the wealthy, heaving us into the greatest budget deficit in history?

Remind me again, exactly what has Bush done to HELP the economy???

Re: Penguins for President?

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No, no. It's the number of Hollywood elite who promise to move out of the country if a given candidate is elected. Following through on the promise is, apparently, not necessary to be included in the average....

Re: Penguins for President?

Anonymous's picture

The republicans push MS everywhere in the government even though it waste money and lowers our overall security.It shows that personal income matters far more than does our country.

Re: Penguins for President?

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Hey Knee Jerk,

Check out Republican Senator John Carona's SB1579 (2002-2003 Legislative year) in Texas. Yep, he's pro MS. Sure he is.

I'm sure he also plots to steal old people's pension programs, throw everybody who smokes pot even once in jail for life, and whip up a few Spotted Owls for dinner. That's right, all Republicans are self serving evil, evil men.

Grow up. Catch a clue. Use some critical thinking skills.

NEXT!

Re: Penguins for President?

Anonymous's picture

Why think critically when you can be Republican?

Re: Penguins for President?

Anonymous's picture

Why work when you can be a democrat.

Re: Penguins for President?

Anonymous's picture

Simple: because it's the only party that requires it.

Re: Penguins for President?

Anonymous's picture

You seem to think that there is some difference between the two major parties....
umm.. the Republicans, staunch defenders of the free market, are pushing for a Socialist medical care program for a political pressure group (Drugs for seniors).
The Republicans have also presided over the biggest tax and spend administrations in history.
They are both owned by the same corporations, and both read the same poll numbers, and use them to decide policy.
not much difference, they are both anti freedom.

Re: Penguins for President?

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You are correct, not all republicans are self serving evil, evil men.

Some of them are women.

Re: Penguins for President?

Anonymous's picture

Point well taken.

Re: Penguins for President?

Anonymous's picture

Apparently in your worldview, grammar matters not at all...

Re: Penguins for President?

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The republicans push MS everywhere in the government

None of the servers listed in the article belong to any branch of any government. Next conspiracy theory, please...

Re: Penguins for President?

Anonymous's picture

Conclusion is obvious --Republcans are going down!
I move we elect Kucinich, Mosley-Braun and Sharpton as a coalition.

Re: Penguins for President?

Anonymous's picture

If this is in alphabetical order, why is Lieberman LAST?

Re: Penguins for President?

Anonymous's picture

Because he's prowar and the people who run this site are hardcore McGovernites.

Re: Penguins for President?

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Its funny how are current administration uses MS. I think it is another big business connection of the Republican party. It makes you wonder if MS is getting something in return?

Re: Penguins for President?

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Have you checked into the connections of the other parties? I doubt that any political party is not connected to many businesses. In fact, the DNC is having money problems because of campaign reform -- it turns out that the RNC has a lot of small contributors, whereas the DNC was depending upon a smaller group of large contributors.

MS will do Ok regardless of who's president.

Re: Penguins for President?

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Their PERSONAL data,sensitive file and every dirty website they ever visit. Good deal, is it not? Rich suck rich, interesting!

Re: Penguins for President?

Anonymous's picture

... Then up, then down again, then up... [frequent reboots on windows!]

Yeah, stop those orbital mind control satellites!

Anonymous's picture

Cool, maybe Kucinich can finally get that bill passed that he's been pushing, the one banning the Pentagon from using orbital mind control satellites.

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