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SuSE Linux Professional 8.2 Review
An easy and smart install, abundant documentation and plenty of configuration options make SuSE 8.2 ideal for the desktop.
Glenn Stone is a Red Hat Certified Engineer, sysadmin, technical writer, cover model and general Linux flunkie. He has been hand-building computers for fun and profit since 1999, and he is a happy denizen of the Pacific Northwest.
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Re: SuSE Linux Professional 8.2 Review
Glenn, nice review of SuSE 8.2. I thought I'd mention one or two things I discovered about it that I really liked.
The first is X configuration. I have yet to find anyone else who has a better configuration tool for X... SuSE's SaX2 makes setting up X a breeze, especially if you are running a multi-card/multi-monitor setup. My machine is a low-end 1.1 GHz Celeron with 640 MB RAM, 20 GB drive, DVD and CD-RW drives and two video cards: an onboard Trident/AGP (not the best) and a PCI-based nVidia GeForce 4 card. SaX2 made running multi-headed with Xinerama a no-brainer.
I mention this because I tried several other distributions (Red Hat 9, Mandrake 9.1) and had problems getting them to set the displays up the way I wanted. RH just didn't seem to care about it, and I could never get both displays working. Mandrake did detect both cards and monitors, but kept throwing one of them into a weird state that would send the monitor off into never-never land.
SaX2 even has a "drag and drop" monitor configuration (a la Mac OS) that lets you reorder the displays with your mouse. They also let you test your new setups without killing your old X setup (something that used to drive me crazy with some distros).
Now, my problems with RH and Mandrake could be due to my lack of knowledge about X, but in the end, it was just so easy to get SuSE set up the way I wanted that I stuck with it and am happy I did.
Secondly, I was impressed that SuSE just worked with every piece of hardware I had. I could immediately burn CDs, listen to music, and get on my network at home with no effort.
Mark
Re: Red Hat 9
Red Hat 9 is a fine product...
Re: SuSE Linux Professional 8.2 Review
> ... and what SuSE is putting back into the community, it's well worth the investment
yes, sure, but releasing yast2 as open source would be even
nicer. this is no new objection.
Re: SuSE Linux Professional 8.2 Review
Have to agree with that! And you would think that SuSe would be into it too. If we wanted to talk like aging capitalists, you would think they would recognize the opportunity for a little more "market penetration."
Re: SuSE Linux Professional 8.2 Review
Agreed. Yast gives the source code but is not Open Source as OSI definition (http://www.opensource.org/)
Re: SuSE Linux Professional 8.2 Review
> yes, sure, but releasing yast2 as open source would be
YaST2 is open source (source ships on any media), but not free software. You're free to modify it or add something to it, but AFAIK you have to use it in SuSE-based system.
Re: SuSE Linux Professional 8.2 Review
hi
yast is not open source. open source means that there should be no discrimination. read the open source definition please
Re: SuSE Linux Professional 8.2 Review
Yes, that's nothing new.............
So SuSE uses Yast to show that they cannot only compile a set of different programs, but actually add something. You can view the source of yast and adjust ist to your needs. But you are not alllowed to make money with yast, without contacting SuSE first.... big deal ...
Re: SuSE Linux Professional 8.2 Review
YaST2 is open source. You get the source on the CD's. Please say what you mean. You wish it was LGPL or GPL..which concidering the BSD's, Mozilla, Apache, SAMBA and many other programs are not *GPL but are most definately Open Source .. I think you should get your terms correct when posting. :)
Re: SuSE Linux Professional 8.2 Review
Thanks for the excellent review! I've been a long time SuSE user and am always glad to see them get such good press.
The ONLY thing I find lacking in SuSE 8.2 is it's lack of a YaST SAMBA tool. There are other config tools available, but I've never had any luck with them. Other than that, I think that SuSE is one of the strongest distros in the running.
Re: SuSE Linux Professional 8.2 Review
Good Review, I like SuSE also, but having purchased 8.2 recently and having a had time getting it to recodnige my Serial ATA harddrive is really a problem is hangs at installation boot and won't go any further, cause it can't find my SATA DRIVE. any suggestions/help.?
William
Re: SuSE Linux Professional 8.2 Review
I agree that SuSe is one of the best distros out there. My problem was getting the sound to work for my intergrated sound card. However, I wasn't the only one and SuSe already had a solution for me insight with a quick donwload from OSS. I am basically new to this whole Linux thing and have switched mainly for political reasons. I am tired to the IMperial Emperor Gates. But thanks for the great SuSe review.
Re: SuSE Linux Professional 8.2 Review
Sub to the suse-linux-e mail list. You can do this from suse.com. I get all the help I need there.
Re: SuSE Linux Professional 8.2 Review
Using swat under SuSE 8.2 works well for me, but I wouldn't mind a YaST module:)
Re: SuSE Linux Professional 8.2 Review
I've never had much luck with SWAT unfortunately. I will personally wait for the new release. On another note, I hope SuSE doesn't follow suite and call it 9.0. As much as I understand the desire to do so from a marketing perspective, I'd hate to see SuSE start "keeping up with the Jonses" in this regard.
Re: SuSE Linux Professional 8.2 Review
SuSE 9.0 (or 8.3 ?!?) will include a YaST SMB configuration tool. & that's 4 sure :-)
Sun's Java Desktop System
Open Source Components:
* SuSE Linux Desktop 1.0 Variant
* GNOME 2.2
* Ximian Evolution 1.4
* Mozilla" 1.4 browser
* OpenOffice.org 1.1 (basis for StarOffice 7 suite)
Website: http://wwws.sun.com/software/javadesktopsystem/index.html
SuSE Linux Desktop 1.0
http://www.suse.com/us/business/products/sld/index.html
Re: Sun's Java Desktop System
You forgot:
* Costs: $100 (vs. $70/$40 for a SuSE Box)
Your comment:
* Relatation: vague
* Motivation for your post: unclear
* Made your point: no
Re: Sun's Java Desktop System
Not to forget that Sun/SCO promises not to sue you if you buy the Sun/SCO Java Desktop System! A $699,- value!
Re: Sun's Java Desktop System
Stop imagining things...
Re: Sun's Java Desktop System
Your comment:
Relevant: Questionable
Amount of money paid by Suse to post here: unclear
Have a point: apparently not
Re: Sun's Java Desktop System
Ohh that's so damn stupid that I would advice: Go play minesweeper on Windows.....
Re: Sun's Java Desktop System
Wrong. The SuSE Enterprise Workstation edition is $140* in cost. The Sun product is based on it so this would mean the Sun product is cheaper.
Re: Sun's Java Desktop System
And your point is that a $30 spread makes all the difference?
Re: Sun's Java Desktop System
I don't know what point the previous poster tried to make, the difference is much more. In addition to beeing $30 cheaper you get more SW packages and you get a distro from the most experienced distro maker, not a first try from a new Linux player. So I agree with him and don't see the relevance.