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A Measured Response to the "SCO Problem"
Sep 16, 2003 By Chris DiBona
When companies ignore logic and duties, you have to hit them in their wallets.
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Re: A Measured Response to the
Perhaps a better OSS community response is to build a web site called, "How to Convert from SCO to Linux" filled with tips and tricks to ease and encourage the transition.
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I have been wondering if SCO cannot prove their case. Wouldn't the threats to end users and the attempt to force them to pay for a license amount to extortion and could they then by tried for blackmail, or even racketeering?
Please don't be stupid...seriously
Blacklisting employees is not only childish, it is quite unethical. You have no idea why an employee would stay with SCO and you cannot infer lack of ethics if an employee does stay.
People encounter situations above and beyond their control on a daily basis. Any adult knows this and to imply that all 'ethical' SCO employees would have left before September is just plain stupid. This is not the attitude that the OS community should exude.
Honestly, if you cannot think of any situation that would make an employee HAVE to stay with SCO even if they find their actions reprehensible, you are either 12 or a bigotted idiot. I am obviously not mincing words because this kind of behavior cannot be tolerated if the OS community is to be viewed as mature and ready for the real world.
So, please grow up.
That is all.
Re: A Measured Response to the
Why would you punish an employee (or former employee) of SCO? They had nothing to do with the decision to file a suit against IBM!
Personally, I would try to hire these people away from SCO. Without the personell base to develop software, fix bugs or sell product, they will die a very fast death.
In reading a few related articles, I noticed that almost 50% of SCO's business is derived from two customers. McDonalds and ???
My approach would be to develop a team of highly qualified, highly talented programmers and develop a package of software specifically designed for McDonalds. Of course, this software would be based on the LINUX operating system.
McDonalds could use the cost savings and the LINUX world could be rid of SCO.
I currently have about 50 clients on SCO boxes. My goal over the next couple of years is to develop replacement software that will run on the LINUX operating system. These 50 clients, as well as any new clients, will all be setup with LINUIX web servers.
I am making this move for two reasons. FIRST - It is more economical for my customers. SECOND - SCO is in some deep doo doo financially and does not look like it will make it. I do not want to strap my customers with an operating system that is not going to be around long enough to fix their bugs.
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" A perusal of The SCO Group's market filings also shows us that the company has no real market for its current products. I mean, does anyone really think that if in some fantasy world where SCO had the ability to levy a $699/CPU fee we wouldn't switch en masse to FreeBSD or simply not pay?"
I think that it would have been obvious by now that SCO never actually intended to make any money with the per cpu fees (for ex look how ill equiped their sales dept was to even collect the fees when give the opportunity).
At the direction of their Master, SCO's top exec's have been sacrificing their company in a bid to stop or slow down the rate at which Linux has been gaining corporate/desktop market share.
I think it's quite possible that a generous benefactor has set up very nice retirement accounts in offshore banks for Mcbride and the rest ....
Re: A Measured Response to the
Can anyone direct me to list of companies using SCO software?
The only one I know of is McDonald's.
Would it be legal and appropriate to boycott all companies using SCO software?
Thank you,
E.
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A great idea, but I think that there are a couple of improvements that could make it even better:
1. We should definitely give SCO employees a fair notice so that they can find alternative employment before they are subject to such sanctions. How about making the deadline Jan 1, 2004, this gives the employees plenty of time to find alternative employment.
2. We should also include any business that has helped SCO to carry out their extortion. For example: The law firm of Hatch, James & Dodge has been retained by SCO (This is significant because the Hatch family is very powerful in Utah). I think that the clients of all businesses that use Boies, Schiller & Flexner, or Hatch, James & Dodge or of Schwartz Communications (http://www.schwartz-pr.com/) should be contacted to let them know that the company that they are working with is involved in the SCO extortion
An item that I think can be used in going after Boies law firm is that the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission recently found that Boies, Schiller & Flexner law firm discriminated against women in wages and working conditions. This combined with its involvement in the SCO extortion case should be plenty of ammo to dissuade its clients from continuing to utilize them.
Boies, Schiller & Flexner clients are:
Adelphia
CBS
Credit Suisse First Boston
Columbia University
DuPont
EchoStar
Ernst and Young
Florida Power and Light
The French Government
Georgia Pacific
Miller Brewing
Napster
Northwest Airlines
Phillip Morris
Qwest Communications
SBC Communications
Siemens
Westinghouse
Tyco International
Unisys Zurich Capital Markets Inc.
New York Yankees
There is an extensive list of Schwartz Communications clients, along with links to their web sites at: http://www.schwartz-pr.com/company/clients.htm
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"How about making the deadline Jan 1, 2004, this gives the employees plenty of time to find alternative employment."
You must be deeply involved in your work. The world is going through a spot of unemployment problems at the moment.
Termination of License to use GPLed Software
One thing that we need to do as a community is to make it perfectly clear to SCO *and* their potential customers that SCO CANNOT sublicense GPLed code on any other terms, and that any attempt to do so will terminate their license to use the program at all.
I think there is a real risk that some of the more foolish CIOs out there will think that they are minimizing risk for their company by paying SCO their "protection money". We need to make it absolutely clear to these potential SCO customers/victims that giving SCO money will NOT reduce business risk, but will in fact increase it. This is TRUE, and it will help to ensure that SCO is denied unlawful revenue. The GPL is NOT public domain. End-user licensees need to be reminded of their obligations under the GPL when using our code. If CIOs realize that they are faced with a choice between *conflicting* legal demands (ours and SCO's), then they will choose the prudent course of waiting for the RedHat and IBM lawsuits to be resolved before paying SCO any money. That is surely one of the things we want!
Doing this is simple, and does not require free software developers to initiate any lawsuits. Any members of the community who have GPL licensed software that is being shipped by SCO (such as members of the kernel team, Samba, etc.) can take this action:
1) Write a PUBLIC letter to SCO demanding that they confirm their acceptance of the terms of the GPL for your software. Reiterate that the GPL and ONLY the GPL allows them to distribute your software to their customers. Point out that the GPL prohibits sublicensing on any other terms, and any attempt to do so will terminate the license.
2) Make clear in the letter that you understand that licensees are not normally requested to confirm acceptance of the license, but recent public statements by SCO executive and attorneys (provide references) cast doubt on their acceptance of the GPL. Therefore, if they are distributing your code, it is a reasonable request.
3) SCO will probably ignore the letter. Therefore, in the letter, give them a fixed period of time to provide written confirmation of acceptance (30 days) of the validity of the GPL as it applies to your software. Inform them that if they fail to accept that the license, that their rights to distribute your software is terminated.
4) Also state in your public letter that anyone who purchases a binary-only license from SCO to YOUR code will terminate their license under the terms of the GPL. Make sure this message is clear to any potential licensees!
5) If SCO fails to confirm acceptance of your license within the time period stipulated, send them another PUBLIC letter, notifying them that as they are in breach of the GPL, their license to distribute your code is terminated, and they must therefore cease & desist from further distribution of your software (a lawyer should probably write this letter -- if it is made public, everyone can use it as a template). In the letter, warn SCO that any further distribution of unlicensed software is a criminal copyright violation.
6) If SCO fails to terminate distribution, write a letter to law enforcement authorities, reporting criminal copyright violation & demand enforcement of the copyright act against SCO. You might want to register your copyright with the US government before taking this step, however.
7) In the unlikely chance that SCO writes you a letter indicating acceptance of the terms of the licence, be sure to provide a copy to RedHat and IBM for use in their lawsuits, since the validity of the license is one of the things they've publically disputed. Make the letter public, as well.
8) If you *work* for any company that uses GPLed software, or know of any that may be contemplating buying a SCO binary-only license, be sure to send them emails pointing to these public letters to ensure that they understand that they will be terminating their rights under the GPL and committing copyright infringement if they agree to SCO's demands (at least, according to the software authors).
Always keep in mind that it is NOT essential in all this that we have a legally airtight rationale for terminating SCO's and other's rights under the GPL if they sign these binary-only license agreements. All that is necessary is that we have a *reasonable argument* based on the terms of the GPL that this is the case (and we do, depending on how the GPL's prohibition on "sublicensing" is interpreted by a court). Now is NOT the time to be cautious in asserting our rights to control the use of our code! What CIOs need is to be aware that there IS a legal conflict between SCO's binary-only license and the GPL, and that the SCO binary-only license on the kernel is unacceptable to the kernel developers. They will then wait, rather than pay for a SCO license.
Perhaps the FSF and/or other lawyers on Groklaw and elsewhere could assist in reviewing this plan and drafting template correspondence that could be used for this.
The important thing is to ensure that this correspondence is PUBLIC, and we issue press releases, if necessary to ensure that businesses are aware of our concerns.
Re: Termination of License to use GPLed Software
EXACTLY!!! You really should submit this as a front page article.
This is exactly the idea that's been going through my head and seems to me to be the most effective way to fight back, and it exactly matches Chris' car story. Certainly, it's a tatic that Samba has already taken a step towards.
My belief is that SCO's aim is not entirely a stock pump-and-dump or qet-rich-through-litigation scheme, but does have a longer-term business plan based on stealing the entire Linux code base to sell it as its own, replacing its obsolete Unixware/OpenServer platforms. If you look at SCO's announcments it made at the SCO forum in Vegas for its next version of OpenServer, you will see a very long laundry list of GPL'ed software that they will be including, and many kernel features that it can be speculated can only have been lifted direct from the Linux kernel. In other words, they will re-brand Linux as Unixware and be the sole retailer, ready to make monopoly profits.
The best way to kill this as a business plan to to prevent them from shipping all those GPL'ed kernel modules that are clearly not "tainted" and the extra GPL'ed apps that are required in the current business environment, and following the above course will do this. Not only will this wake SCO up to the fact that they will not have a viable product to steal/sell at the end, but will also notify any potential customers that SCO will not have a viable product to sell to them for that license fee they are demanding. If made publically enough, it may also wake share investors to the fact that SCO is not a good long-term investment, but they really are only speculating on the short-term legal gains, so it may not have such an impact there.
A further step GPL projects can take is to emphasise their support for the BSD's. They need to make a lot of noise about how if Linux falls into SCO's evil clutches and is no longer a licensed/supported product for thier app, then BSD will be a fully viable alternative option. Again, this attacks SCO's future business model.
Like you say, this needs to be as public and co-ordinated as possible. The luminaries of the community need to lauch some central clearing hose to co-ordinate the announcments and letters. The EFF lawyers need to help with drafting the letters. With a central web-site documenting the fatal consequences of failing to agree to the GPL, we can issue a mass ultimatum, then take as much glee in rescinding their license thay they took in supposedly recinding IBM's.
John.
The problem is Sun.
Simple: don't buy Sun, be it hardware, Solaris, or Java. If you maintain a package, remove Solaris support. Go one better, and put a nice obnoxious statement into the configure script explaining why Solaris is unsupported.
Re: A Measured Response to the
Yes--refusing to hire SCO employees is wrong, unwise, and cruel. There isn't much of a job market for them. Offering to hire them might be a good idea, since they may provide us with useful insights to help in the fight against SCO. SCO will have no problem finding new employees, but retraining costs are high are these would be new employees lacking in knowledge of current products. It would seriously hurt them--at least for a while.
I absolutely agree that we need a website blacklisting their distrobution channel. Blacklisting the Canopy groups majority held companies might also help. Sun Microsystems also needs to be held accountable for their actions. Microsoft's "ironically timed" purchase of SCOsource licenses can be taken for granted, but Sun has labelled itself as pre-Open Source and has developed Linux-based products. They've also given a great deal of legitimacy to the SCO Group, by publically offering indemnification and various comments implying the questionable originals of Linux source code. They need, at the very least, to be openly questioned about these actions in a highly public setting.
Furthermore, this website needs to include a section for gathering anonymous tips against SCO and its distrobution channel members.
I can write one, now.. Would slashdot post it?
Matthew
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Blacklists are UnAmerican.
Joseph R. McCarthy is dead.
An Information List would be acceptable.
Re: A Measured Response to the
Perhaps you could go for the people in charge. To get into a position where you have become a CEO or some other important job in a company you usually have done something that you are not all that proud of in your life.
In the case of Darl McBride perhaps somebody could follow up on Linus crack lead. Perhaps some tabloid newspaper could be interested in a picture showing Darl with a crack pipe back in his college days, assuming such picture exists. Other interesting areas could to target could be to investigate and expose odd sexual habits if any of the executives of the offending company.
In other words make it personal. If no dirt can be found on the executive himself, target his relatives, such as wife. parents or children. If he has personal problems that may affect his ability to make correct business decisions. Of course none of us want to get that low, but unfortunately this is probably the only way to handle the Darls of the world.
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I've seen some low sleazy ideas of how to get even with SCO here.
This is the lowest and reminds me of our illustrious Democrats/Socialists/Communists.
I can't stoop to slander, ?even if I'm using the truth to do so?.
You shouldn't either.
You don't have to punish the children who didn't have a choice of parents.
Nor should you punish the spouse who may be locked into this relation due to his or her duty to their children.
After all we all make mestakes in our life.
I've made it a goal to never support SCO systems now or in the future of my company.
I've advised the owners/CEO/CFO's to seek assistance elsewhere or to change OS.
It's working.
Pete Gandy
Re: A Measured Response to the
You want to go after his KIDS!? My goodness, that opens up the world of competition. Mr. Darl can then go after your kids, your wife, your parents... do you really want to start something like this?
Re: A Measured Response to the
Finding a picture of Darl with a crack pipe in college would be VERY difficult, since he went to Brigham Young University, the "straightest" school you're ever going to find.
I don't think targeting individuals is a good idea in any case. Find a way to make the company hurt. The only thing they seem to care about is their wallets, so that's where the attack needs to be centered.
Re: A Measured Response to the
I agree that in most cases it is much better to hurt their wallets.
But in this case it is hard to do.
SCO has no marketable product or viable long term business model that can be tampered with to make them loose money. The only thing they are good at is pumping their stock by spectacular press releases. To be able to do that they need credablility. Defameing their leaders would most probably have effect on the press coverage of SCO, and that would hurt their wallet.
The fact that we may have to hurt Mr McBride to reach our goals is unfortunate, but no more unfortunate than that we may need to hurt Saddam Hussein and his familly to ensure stability in Iraq.
Re: A Measured Response to the
Very noble of you to take this stance, it of course requires no sacrafice on your part. I noticed that no mentioned was made to hold responsible the facilitators of SCO's bad behavior, Sun and Microsoft. Could it be that any "shunning" of Sun or Microsoft may cause an inconveince to you or your business? When you are really ready to make a stand, let me and I'll be with you. At this point in time it appears you are just puffing out your chest and beating your fist.
That's not the same
Your suggestion is interesting, but it is not the same as the example you give. In your example of the car leaking oil out of the tail pipe, you felt wronged and were able to prove that the dealership was at fault. You then found a legal remedy that the dealer was forced to pay attention to.
If you feel wronged by SCO, or if you feel that SCO has done some wrong to someone else, then you need to find the same kind of legitimate & legal remedy.
Attacking former employees and SCO's lawers amounts to childish bullying and shows that you do not have a case. You must direct your attack at the issue at hand -- and show that someone has been harmed.
My two bits....
Re: That's not the same
Your comment is not worth nearly two bits. The fact that you would charge two bits for such worthless feedback is like SCO charging for Linux ;)
Re: A Measured Response to the
Punishing employees of `mis-guided` companies likely means missed opportunities. SCO employees are facing personal instability with the loss of the company over the next few years.
The SCO group lost status marketing ability which could have moved them to a much broader market at excessive pricing. A Rolls Royce of operating systems and endorsed with a quiet nod by many of the open source communities. SCO lost software developers who coded and released their works at no cost to the unix copyright holders.
Right now, from a tactical point of view. My attention has been drawing more and more to M$. Their up to their old tricks, in fact their much more aggressive with corrupt files, inability to download from select file servers, and competing/undermining companies that develop for their OS.
M$ is using an infamous american tactic similar to driving a pick-up truck up on the white house lawn, being told to turn back by secret service, and compling in every way shape and form except the steering wheel and gas pedal.
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I agree that this is the best course, or maybe the only course of action. Interestingly.. you didnt mention the companies that fall under the Canopy Group. There are quite a few of them out there. If it were me, i would be sure that my purchases were never mad from a company that falls under the canopy groups umbrella.
Re: A Measured Response to the
Punishing SCO employees is not a useful measure. You are punishing the people who are leaving the company. On the contrary, we should encourage more of their employees to leave ... if their programmers leave, who is going to maintain the software contracts they have with MacDonald and other firms. Who is going to implement their WebServices strategy?
We need to put pressure on Sun, MadHatter is a good start for Sun to make the transition to Linux. If they succeed with it they will feel comfortable with having Solaris for their very high end systems and Linux for the rest and they will not have an incentive to torpedo Linux out of fear of the damage it will cause to Solaris. This way they will have no need to fund SCO by buying the so called "licenses".
IBM, HP and Dell must succeed with their Linux strategy, making them sucessfull will give them a reason to come forward and protect the movement that generates a significan amout of revenue.
Stop attacking Lindows, no other Linux company has confronted MS at the desktop level as they have. They will not own the Linux market, but they are certainly puting Linux in the masses mouths and minds which in turn will eventually translate in the major hardware manufacturers take notice and support the movement at the masses level.
As for MS, there is a limit on how much money they can pass to SCO in licensing of un-needed SysV source. They know Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly is still watching them. A few months she got very pissed at MS and told them she was very disatisfied with the way they were licensing their code to competitors. MS immediatelly backdown and complied. She has to be made aware of MS tactics against a potential competitor (linux) using a proxy (SCO) to do their dirty job. The leaked memos (Halloween) where they MS employess talk about confronting the Linux movements can be use as partial evidence. If MS feels that helping SCo might bring scrujtiny by MS. Kollar, they will stop funding SCO.
My 2 cents
Re: A Measured Response - SUN Microsystems
Mad hatter will be out shortly and Sun still own 100% of all code used in both Sun Linux and Solaris. NO IP is used that doesnt belong to them.
This means that Sun could effectively blow SCO completely from the market if they strategise correctly and do push linux for the smaller systems whilst maintaining solaris for high end, high availability solutions.
The comment about Licensing does not apply where Sun is concerned , as i said before, the code is theirs, the IP is theres and they are free to use it wherever they want with no threat from SCO and no licenses to pay.
Back Sun Microsystems and fight SCO with their monopolistic view of software... Linux is not theirs and never will be.
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I think you read this wrong. The article refered not to Lindows but to Lindon, the city in Utah where SCO is headquartered.
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I like the idea of boycotting vendors who carry SCO products. I will start vetting those vendors out now.
As far as not hiring SCO employees, I disagree. Up until recently I was out of work for two years. I was looking - hard. Jobs are diffucult to come by and to hit the little guys at SCO isn't right. A better idea is for IT personnel to not apply for jobs at SCO and to advertise that your company will actively hire current SCO employees. Where can a company go without any employees???
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Great Idea!
Unless they are Communists.:)
We left blacklists in the fifties.
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**Outstanding** idea. Just provide enough opportunities for the SCO worker bees and then the company just dies on the vine!
No one is going to fill those vacanies at SCO, RIGHT????
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How about we all take out small put-options on SCO stock. With current instability this would be like throwing neutrons at a block of plutonium. Who knows we might even stand to make a buck or two when it goes off.
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Not a bad idea, but it has a small problem: you apparently CAN'T buy options on SCOX, put or otherwise. That's because there are apparently no options trading on it. I checked "Option Chain" on Fidelity's web site.
So that would leave you with shorting the stock. And indeed, it is gonna be a GREAT short at some point. The problem with shorting is that you can lose your shirt if market crazies continue driving the price up against all logic of fundamentals.
It is indeed looking a bit like a greater fool play right now. And ANY stock that becomes too detached, on the upside, from its fundamentals-dictated price range, is a good short candidate, because the new market (ie. post-bubble) is not going to be tolerant of ridiculous valuations for very long (unlike in the go-go days of four years ago).
So then the question is to figure out when that has occurred with SCOX. Let's see, they have about 13 million shares outstanding (48% insider ownership, and insiders have sold about 2% of their holding over the last 6 months - not exactly the "dumping" that some have claimed). So the real issue is how many businesses are going to pay the extortion fee to protect themselves against the possibility of an SCO suit. That is the limiting factor on their revenue. You ought to be able to come up with an estimate of how much revenue they must pull to support a reasonable price (their current P/E ratio is already 104, which is quite high, but if their revenue continues to jump, it would come down). As it gets WAY above that price, a little short action could bring in some money, as well as give notice to investors who might be inclined to participate in pumping it up.
The other issue is whether most of their revenue really IS coming from just Sun and M$. If so, and if it can be demonstrated that these "sales" are really just the funding of proxy attacks on Linux, might there not be a legal strategy against M$ and Sun (along antitrust lines, perhaps)?
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I like the idea of boycotting vendors who carry SCO products. I will start vetting those vendors out now.
As far as not hiring SCO employees, I disagree. Up until recently I was out of work for two years. I was looking - hard. Jobs are diffucult to come by and to hit the little guys at SCO isn't right. A better idea is for IT personnel to not apply for jobs at SCO and to advertise that your company will actively hire current SCO employees. Where can a company go without any employees???
What about other Canopy Group companies?
Blacklisting ex-SCO employees is divisive and could discourage would-be whistleblowers and leakers. If you want to hit SCO's backers in the wallet, follow the money trail and consider a boycott companies primarily owned by Canopy Group and its principals.
I don't mean companies in which Canopy owns a token investment stake (e.g. Troll Tech). I mean companies like Altiris (ATRS) and MTI Technologies (MTIC).
--AllanKim
Re: What about other Canopy Group companies?
This is a much better idea. It hits the right people, management, and it is not illegal, as blacklisting SCO employees probably is (I'd have to look it up to be sure). The problem with SCO's position is that it is a no lose situation for the management, and they are in control. They don't care about selling their products or being blacklisted as a company because they are going under anyway. They don't care about their employees, so blacklisting them isn't going to help (even if it is legal). They just want to make some quick cash any way they can before the company goes bankrupt.
Re: What about other Canopy Group companies?
Where is there more information about the ownership structure of SCO and related companies?
Re: What about other Canopy Group companies?
www.canopy.com is a good place to start.
Re: What about other Canopy Group companies?
http://sco.iwethey.org among other sites.
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Legally, can you even do that in the states? You most certainly could not do that in Canada. It falls under our canadian employment equity laws, and though you could simply just not hire someone that worked at SCO, no way could you advertise it like that. The human rights commision would be all over you here....
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The SCO Group letter demanding payment really is the same as any criminal group demanding a business pay "insurance" to be protected from damage. This is called a protection racket, and is against the law in the U.S.A. So the quicker method than waiting for all the suits to come to trial or settlement is for one of the recipients of the SCO letter to file a complaint of attempted extortion with the authorities.
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Bravo, why hasn't a lawyer or newspaper reporter picked up on this. SCO in the courts and maybe behind the bars. How appropriate hung by their own words!
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I have already sent an email to SCO warning them that if they send me an invoice, or file any suit against me I will go directly to the Manhattan District Attorney's office, and the New York State, Attorney General's office. I would also push for a class-action lawsuit against SCO, to be filed by the recipients of the invoices/suits. Here I am SCO! I am NOT afraid of you!Rick Stanley, rstanley@rsi-ny.com
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I appreciate Chris DiBona's thinking process. Good story. But I think that blacklisting is useless as a tactic because the human race is inherently forgiving. Playing fast and loose with the truth by the Boies law firm and Schwartz PR firm will be discounted by potential customers a short time after these issues resolve themselves.
A more powerful strategy is for the OSS community to level the playing field by shifting from a defensive, reactive mode to a highly proactive mode. The OSS community needs to establish a response team. We need to round up our best and brightest to begin a top-down / bottom-up proactive briefing campaign.
Yes, I know that luminaries are in the fight. But all of their efforts are defensive. If you want to achieve a positive spin on all those nasty headlines (OSS is a cancer), you MUST go proactive.
I am advocating "the truth well told" in advance of incoming blasts from Lindon and Redmond.
The non profit OSS trade associations are the place to start. If several groups call for the creation of a supergroup for the explicit purpose of visiting journalists, analysts and opinion leaders, the playing field will level out and the tide will begin to turn.
It's also possible to conceive of an annual "camp" for journalists and analysts and key business leaders, a deep educational and one-on-one briefing opportunity sponsored by the OSS community. Something like the Microprocessor Forum that is an ultra PR event that always passes the smell test.
Leading firms (e.g. Microsoft, Intel, Motorola, CA, IBM) mount this kind of event. But we know there's no Redmond in OSS, Do we have the will to fashion a "virtual" Redmond and execute a proactive strategy?
I do, but I'm a voice in the wilderness. Who will join me?
murry@sonic.net
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Even more then that: I think that the OSS community has to act as a
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A 2nd vote for this professional idea. A positive pro-active strategy. Oh yes, I am way less than a voice in the wind as well.
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I have always challenged the rating system on these posts. This idea possesses the greatest merit on the subject yet. And it has an unimaginative zero score. Who scores these?
I am not even a voice in the wilderness, but I'd certainly be willing to put my time and energy into a project like this. It is the most professional response yet to the SCO problem. A lot of grumbling and whining going on, but not a lot of coordinated response. It is clearly time for an OSS Trade Association.
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Blacklisting employees and law firms should be extended to SCO's PR firm, Schwartz Communications. PR firms have a well understood duty to represent the truth. Yes, they spin, but the spin is rooted in truth and can be successfully vetted by journalists.
I think it's pretty clear that SCO's PR fails the journalist smell test, and Darl's open letter is the prime example. Darl's letter is so polished and sweetly reasonable-sounding (written for investors and juries) that it is most definitely a PR / legal spin that took some time to prepare.
PR agencies who value their journalist contacts can resign sleazy clients. If Schwartz persists, they should be blacklisted.
The *Right* thing to do
would be to fight for SCO in getting their money back.
Re: A Measured Response to the
Rather than be nasty to SCO employees, some of whom may really not have any alternatives what with the crappy economy, and who are in any case likely to find plenty of firms without policies such as this, why not put pressure on their resellers? Granted, it's a failing business in any case, but they do still take in money from their resellers and partners. Furthermore, this strategy plays much better to the nature of the Linux comunity by being distributed, "proactive" (taking action rather than just refusing to deal with certain individuals), and a positive, rather than negative approach:
I wrote an article about it here:
http://www.advogato.org/article/702.html
Re: A Measured Response to the
Hit them through their resellers. Most vendors depend on their reseller channel to make sales. Most of those resellers sell more than one vendors product. Inform the people that you normally do business with on hardware and software purchases that if they carry SCO products, you'll go looking for your computer needs elsewhere. If SCO's reseller channel dries up, the only way they'll have to make any money is off their lawsuits and licenses. They won't even have a pretense of having a "viable product" to be damaged.
Re: A Measured Response to the
Hit them through their resellers.
Ineffective, because SCO's revenue (according to their latest report) comes primarily from just 2 companies, Sun Microsystems and Microsoft. These companies have paid millions of dollars to SCO to keep it afloat.
Not coincidentally, Sun and Microsoft (in that order) are the two companies which are most vulnerable to Linux and which stand to gain the most from FUD being thrown at it.