SCO to Reveal Allegedly Copied Code

SCO's Chris Sontag claims the copied UnixWare source is "all over the place" in Linux and promises to show it to third parties soon.

Chris Sontag, senior vice president and general manager of The SCO Group's SCOsource licensing operation, said in an interview that he will show independent experts, under a non-disclosure agreement, the evidence behind SCO's allegations that the Linux kernel source contains code copied from SCO UnixWare illegally and without credit.

The independent panel will be invited to see SCO source code and the corresponding code in Linux "in a couple weeks", and it will consist of "respected analysts and respected third parties", Sontag said. SCO has not decided on any individuals who will be invited to participate, he added.

Although SCO's claims about Linux developers copying from SCO's proprietary UnixWare have been vague in the past, this time Sontag specifically claimed that there is "significant copyrighted and trade secret code within Linux".

When asked for examples of infringement, Sontag said, "It's all over the place" but did not characterize any one subsystem as containing more infringing code than others. Infringement is present not only in distributions and vendor kernels, but in the official kernel available from kernel.org. Code has been "munged around solely for the purpose of hiding the authorship or origin of the code", he said.

"I can't at this point lay out all the evidence", Sontag said, citing the advice of SCO's lawyers. Sontag would not identify any listed contributor or specific time period associated with the introduction of UnixWare source. But he said there is "pre-IBM" infringement in addition to the "post-IBM" one SCO already has claimed--some kernel versions released before IBM began contributing to Linux contain UnixWare code, he said.

Is it that both Linux and UnixWare are borrowing from BSD? "We specifically excluded the BSD-derived code", Sontag said. "There is post-BSD UnixWare source code origined [sic] with SCO, and that is of issue."

Don Marti is Editor in Chief of Linux Journal.

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Didn't they already show code to NDA holders

Anonymous's picture

who all swore they saw something. Then the NDA holders probably went back to their offices and looked over the BSD codebase and found what SCO's internal report showed; the code was common third party material and SCO had stripped out the BSD copyright notices.

Here it is..

Anonymous's picture

over two months later. I just stumbled onto this article and I'm amazed that it hasn't happened. Or has it, and everyone is keeping quiet. You be the judge. It sounds like Chris Sontag was just talking in the wind again..

Re: SCO to Reveal Allegedly Copied Code

Anonymous's picture

What's going to happen here is that some Special Master will be appointed to oversee the case. Said Special Master will find people who are impartial and are able to review the code.

No NDAs will need to be signed, for SCO must now prove to the courts that they have been harmed. In order for SCO to do this, they must reveal the code, at least to the court, and possibly to a jury. No judge in his right mind will make the jury sign NDAs to hear a case... Not when SCO is the one bringing the charges.

The interesting thing here is the Microsoft angle. Why on earth would Microsoft want to license something that they, themselves, have termed an inferior product? It's clear that SCO's management team is bent over in front of Microsoft, waiting for the boys at Redmond to have their way. (I guess in that aspect, the interesting thing is SCO's angle... but I digress).

Linux, en toto, has matured as a robust, strong, operating system, thanks to the guidance of Richard Stallman, Linus Torvalds, and countless others who have contributed their blood, sweat, and tears, to make the worlds best operating system. Companies who depend on software license fees for their profits are naturally wont to be concerned about this.

If I can download an entire operating system, with tools, for my PC for the cost of my DSL monthly fee, why should I want to spend $495 on an operating system that does exactly the same thing? I'll tell you - I don't, haven't, and won't do that, ever... as long as I have the option for the freebie, and that freebie meets my needs.

It's about freedom of choice. And I've exercised that freedom, and will continue to do so.

Re: SCO to Reveal Allegedly Copied Code

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Given that the linux code IS already public, the fact that they don't want to tell publicly which parts are supposed to be copied (but only want to tell this to a small number of people under non disclosure agreement) shows that they aren't really believing this ***** themselves.

I say: SCO noticed that they would get killed by linux eventually, and had a talk with microsoft. microsoft promised them money in exchange for anti-linux PR. By telling such lies about legal infringements of the linux kernel, Microsoft and SCO want people to associate "Linux" with "Illegal" and "Legal problems". The idea is that businesses that don't really know about how ridiculous SCO's claims are might think: "Ok, we thought about switching to linux, but since there is this lawsuit and we don't want to have to deal with legal issues for using linux, we don't switch". Of course, once the code is analyzed it will be found that everything SCO said was bull. but in the meantime, (so they think), the effect of this lawsuit is to prevent people from switching to linux and to do bad PR against linux. You'll notice that instead of immediately telling everyone what code is supposed to be copied, they say: "soon we will release, under NDA etc." All they try to do is to stretch time and to keep this lawsuit thing running as long as they can. The longer this goes, the more people (might) associate linux with legal problems and not switch.
But that will backfire. Not only will SCO lose the lawsuit in all points, but they will go out of business pretty soon. the money they are getting from microsoft only gives them a little longer to live.

Re: SCO to Reveal Allegedly Copied Code

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SCO, it's lawyers, and it's management have their work cut out for them.
I don't think this is the first time they have been in bed with the Devil.
Sometimes what works in one environment is less sucessful in another.
Environments change. Today, I don't think this course of action is acceptable, nor will it be successful.
I also don't think they are prepared for the backlash that will arise from their actions.
MS has not changed it's practices. I think most of this is perfectly transparent.
To bring these issues to a public forum is a great thing for the Community.
Let's see the proof!

I also believe that litigation will backfire and actually produce a positve momentum for Linx and Open Source.
Thanks SCO!
If Linux was not a significant threat do you believe we would be seeing this?
Wanna "munge around"?

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I thought it was rather interesting that they are requiring the third-party to sign a non-disclosure when viewing code that is already in the public domain (ok, call it GPLed) and an "illegal" copy thereof.

Anyone else see a breakdown in logic here?

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SCO is accusing IBM a robber, and thousands of Free S/W developers thieves and idiots. SCO will have to prove all these charges. I fail to see any reason why these developers have to to sign NDAs or anything else to see the charges against them!

Re: SCO to Reveal Allegedly Copied Code

Anonymous's picture

Let me see if I got this right, IBM, whose copyright attorneys kept competitors at bay for years with that sneaky trick of actually printing out the bios listing for the original pc, and has had a clean reputation for "thow shall not steal trade secrets" for years, has blundered into a den of code thieves.....Me think's not. SCO has been a greedy loser for years. Adios....

Re: SCO to Reveal Allegedly Copied Code

Anonymous's picture

one thing to note.
the copyright statue states
"in no case does copyright protection for an original work of authorship extend to any idea, procedure, process, system, method of operation, concept, principle or discovery, regardless of the form in which it is described, explained, illustrated, or embodied in such work"

also

Judge Learned Hand wrote,
"borrowed the work must indeed not be, for a plagiarist is not himself pro tanto an 'author'; but if by some magic a man who had never known it, were to compose anew Keats's "Ode on a Grecian Urn," he would be an 'author,' and, if he copyrighted it, others might not copy that poem, though they might of course copy Keats's."

I read this as if someone has a good process/procedure for handling any system/subsystem, considering the limited form of expression a computer language provides. the same solution could be reached by more than one person in the exact same manner and no one would infringe on any copyrights.

ie. if i had never worked on a unix system. never seen any unix code in my entire life, and could prove it, and i just happened to apply an algorithm with the exact same lines of code to do the same work. i am not infringing on any copyrights. in fact i can copyright the material myself to stand alongside of the original.

the question of who created the work first is not a significant issue.

so in conclusion the real issue in my opinion is exposure. did the developers of the so-called infringing code have exposure to sco's proprietary source or are they just as smart as the sco developers and reached the same conclusion implementing the same algorithms?

my bet would be the developers are at least as smart or smarter and reached the same conclusion.

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Anonymous's picture

This whole thing smells like something blowing down wind from Redmond. This would make a great movie plot: A certain monolopy can't "convince" anyone that OpenSource and Linux are evil, so they have to resort to covert assassin tactics. I hope that behind the scene, IBM and others are pouring thru all of SCO's products to find any piece of LINUX or proprietary unlicensed code that may have found it's way into them. I'll chear the day SCO goes belly up and it stock becomes worthless.

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Anonymous's picture

BINGO!

These SCO characters are just taking a page from the playbook of the U.S. State Dept. The U.S. dearly wants Iraqi oil, wants regional domination of that area of the world, and wants to bolster the collapsing petrodollar in the face of an ever-stronger Euro. What better excuse to just walk in and invade with, than under a claim of nonexistant 'weapons of mass destruction'?

WMD = Intellectual property 'transgressions'. They can't get what they want in any legitimate way, so they try the heavy-handed assassination tactics.

The truth are about to be revealed...

Anonymous's picture

Okay! Microsoft is lurking in the Dark, no doubt about it.

SCO are about to license Unix code to MS! What a charade.
Microsoft which have shown the IT industri how they are able to use all the tricks in the book to gain control in the IT industri.

Steve Balmer told the world via BBC that "MS would take everybody elses good idea and make it their great idea".

Kerberos, Java, Stacker, NIS, DNS are all fine examples on their attitude.

Quite ironic, isn't it! MS who in the beginning could not tell one memory heap from the other "suddenly" managed to come up with WIN95, NT (after IBM's 2nd. bummer) now are supposed to get hands on the "enemy" UNIX code! Probably to get absolute control in the market.

Re: Funny

Anonymous's picture

First of all I'd like to reassure everyone that GNU/Linux will be able to adapt if there is a real case here. The code can be simply replaced. The only way SCO could 'destroy' a piece of functionality is if they have a software patent on it and wish to enforce it. Otherwise it is just copyright, which can be avoided by re-writing the code in 'our own words'.

Secondly. Perhaps SCO can explain the logic of:
"will show independent experts, under a non-disclosure agreement"

How can an NDA be used to effectivly hide the evidence. I just need to go to PCWorld and I can get the evidence off the shelf! The only thing they could use the NDA for is to keep the discussions they have behind closed doors.

'1984' comes to mind here as they could do anything behind those doors, including bribery, forging/altering the evidence, murder?

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Anonymous's picture

i used the contact us field to give them a piece of my mind.

Re: SCO to Reveal Allegedly Copied Code

Anonymous's picture

SCO is not the only one owning some unix rights, OSF is an other party that owns some of the unix rights. Here is their statement...

http://www.opensource.org/sco-vs-ibm.html

CBee

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OSF is not OSI. OSI (opensource.org) does not have any Unix copyrights or trademarks. OSF is now part of The Open Group, which holds the Unix trademark.

Re: SCO to Reveal Allegedly Copied Code

Anonymous's picture

Hrmp... I don't like how this is shaping up...

I heard someone earlier was claiming this is a ploy to try to get SCO eaten up by IBM. IBM feels threatened by SCO's lawsuit so instead of settling and giving large amounts of money to a future competitor, they buy the damn company. Thus giving the managment big bonuses and nice -I forget the proper wording- detachment packages. Hasn't SCO been having a hard time economicly lately? I know that linux has succeded were MS's NT/w2k has failed.. namely eroding traditionally entrenched unix markets..

Plus I don't know how much code linux developers is getting from IBM, but IBM publicly stated that it was putting code into linux from parts of it's AIX-based OS. Which they bought rights from SCO... So I would be suprised then if they actually didn't find code copied from SCO's OS. Because, remember the basis of This lawsuit is that IBM is "devaluing" unix code by giving away copyright code. IBM clames they bought the code outright and can do with it what they damn please...

SO the f**ked up thing is that even if they loose this case they will still get a public relations blow against Linux in a big way by illigitmising the whole open-source concept.

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Anonymous's picture

SO the f**ked up thing is that even if they loose this case they will still get a public relations blow against Linux in a big way by illigitmising the whole open-source concept.
Wrong, if Sco/Caldera lose then the Linux and Open Source model will be in fact legitimised in law and any other bozos thinking of challanging Linux code will have to have an absolutely cast iron case, and by that I mean reams of code that have been explicitly copied, not the occasional line which is identical, as most intelligent people are capable of learning that there are only so many ways of coding the same or similar functions
The 'obfuscated code' claim that Sco/Caldera is simply an attempt to confuse the issue by having non identical code included in their claim because it performs a similar function to code they have created. This in itself is not a breach of any trade secret laws anywhere.
Personally I think that Sco/Caldera are hoping to get a Judge who cannot or will not see that simple truth.

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Anonymous's picture

(a conspiracy theory by Vikki Mai)

Somewhere in the dark night of the Redmond two men are
meeting in secret. One of them opens his trench-coat and reveals a good
selection of Rolex(TM) imitations and some gaudy looking gold
jewelery:

Mc: Hullo mister, can I interest you on some genuine Rolex(TM) watches or these lovely 24 karat gold necklaces?

Ga: Nope.

Mc: How about some cheap but good software?

Ga: WHO DO YOU THINK I AM? I NEVER BUY CHEAP SOFTWARE...

Mc: Relax mister, this is a good company having many, many,
many fine assets in the fields of the intellectual
property. [whispering] It owns several Unix(TM) licenses...

Ga:
That useless gunk, they just bought those licenses for
sentimental reasons awhile go, when no one saw any reason to do so and
still doesn't.

Mc: Useless then, perhaps, but not today. Have you ever heard
about Linux?

Ga: LINUX, WHAT DOES THAT HAIR BRAINED PIECE OF ***** HAS TO DO
WITH IT! I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT WIPED OUT OF EXISTENCE. WE CAN NOT
EVEN SUE THEM AS IT IS A COMMUNITY PROJECT..

Mc: Chill out dude. I can tell you how. Our legal department
has been researching day and night and I think we have away. I'll tell
you that if you just buy our majority...

Ga: No, it's too risky. We have just started to recover our
good public face with large donations to the poor. It would destroy
everything. What would Steve say then? Spend some more money on China
to cure Sars Bill? No, I think not.

Ponders a while

Let's do it this way. I'll give you a huge personal bonus to try to
make your claim stick in the court against someone. Let's say you
try your scheme with the IBM. If you pull thru, I'll buy your majority
and if you don't you just keep the rest of the bonus, change your name,
appearance, sex, whatever and live happily ever after...

Mc: Ok. But it will happen this way. We will win and I will
keep the rest of the money. But then the shares are on an open market
for the highest bidder and believe me, there will be several
bidders. Are you sure that you won't buy us out now?

Ga:Nope. I'll try my luck afterwards. Let's shake hands on it.

Mc shakes hands with Ga and leaves.
Ga: He will lose and when he does, we will buy his company and
donate the licenses for the academic where they belong. We will get a
good rep from that. Rep that even that cursed Linux community would
applaud! And while they are battling in the court the fear and
darkness will rule, no one will dare to spend money on Linux
projects. Open Source will suffer. We can not lose!

Re: SCO to Reveal Allegedly Copied Code

Anonymous's picture

Ummm,

"but IBM publicly stated that it was putting code into linux from parts of it's AIX-based OS."

Where did that come from? IBM is calling SCO allegations groundless. When did Big Blue publically state that it had given
Aix code to Linux?????

Maybe I haven't looked hard enough, but I haven't seen that statement anywhere.

Re: SCO to Reveal Allegedly Copied Code

Anonymous's picture

McBride is getting a lot of press coverage.

NDA & analyst or not, this will not be tired in the press!

At some point, SCO and McBride will have to put up or shutup and it won't be under NDA, it is called discovery!

Then the truth will be determined.

And for McBride's sake I hope like hell he has some evidence, any evidence, cause if he ain't the legal **it storm he'll find himself in, will make this look like a cake walk.

Till then there isn't anything to worry about!

I hope Caledra filled the correct disclosure statements with the SEC!

There is no trade secret code in Linux

Anonymous's picture

While someone might consider some knowledge to be a trade secret, once the information is known by someone else without a contract protecting the trade secret status, it is no longer a trade secret.

SCO might be able to argue that someone violated the contract they entered into at some point in the past and sue them for damages caused by violating the contract, there is no way to undo the loss of trade secret status.

Beyond that, SCO seems to be making the same claim that the copyright holders of Gone with the Wind tried to make in regard to The Wind Done Gone.

Re: SCO to Reveal Allegedly Copied Code

Anonymous's picture

At the very least, this is a clasic case of "digging one's own grave"
Unless of course this is being guided by an outside force shuch as, dare I say it,..... Microsoft, who is the only one who could possibly benifit from such an action.

What if... x or y? Future options = brainstorm now

Anonymous's picture

If and only if there is an adverse postion taken by the court that is not in favor of Linux... then, there must be options!

We would be irresponsible if we did not consider what the full range of options would be... NOW!

Sample Options:

a) If the court upholds the former BSD suit, then use that code and apply GPL to new version of it.

b) Take out the offending code and replace it (the only problem will be if other limitations would be imposed by the court)

c) Have the government(s), by legal action, buy SCO or take over the UNIX assets of SCO (if SCO does not want to sell then force them to sell due to national security reasons it is best that LINUX be kept alive). Then the government declares LINUX in the public domain. Note: During one of the last World Wars there was a problem with a patent on an airplane design that resulted in the government having to take that over due to the need for it to be usable by all airplane manufacturers to create planes for the war effort (the remote controlled aircraft used by the US military are most likely coded using a varient of UNIX - so the government can not afford to have it's code be controlled by a proprietary company - it is best that it be open source and usable by any government agency - NASA, NSA, Defense, Homeland Security, etc...with no strings attached). If this happened then Apple, IBM, or other corporations (even Microsoft) could operate from a standard that would drive innovation for the benefit of mankind.

Comment: If SCO wins... and there are court restrictions on LINUX, BSD and others (based on a ruling that SCO "owns UNIX")... then, nothing good can come of that! So all options must be considered now.

d)_________?

Re: What if... x or y? Future options = brainstorm now

Anonymous's picture

"Comment: If SCO wins... and there are court restrictions on LINUX, BSD and others (based on a ruling that SCO "owns UNIX")... then, nothing good can come of that! So all options must be considered now."

BSD has already been sued for the inclusion of UNIX code, and the sources were purged (resulting in 4.4BSD-lite, the last BSD release from UCB, which is what all the current BSD systems are based on). I don't think any more UNIX code has been added since then, and GPL'd code (ie, the Linux code in question) is generally not used by the BSDs.

I think the bigger problem coming from this could be the loss of coporate developers (employees from IBM and Sun, etc) being paid to do Linux. If IBM developers didn't have access to the UNIX code under NDA, or if those developers didn't do any Linux coding, there would be no problem. It was crazy to have developers working on a Unix-like system with NDA access to UNIX code in the first place.

Re: SCO to Reveal Allegedly Copied Code

Anonymous's picture

I feel so sad towards the Linux community. As a recent convert, I have come to appreciate the openness and the community that it has fostered. This will trigger off a whole bunch of actions and law suites from other potential leeches.

SCO may have just successfully killed off open source (and themselves in the process). I know that they will not have a chance in the world of surviving now ... but they seem determine to drag Linux/open source down with them.

Re: SCO to Reveal Allegedly Copied Code

Anonymous's picture

So, I wonder how even a successful SCO lawsuit would *REALLY* affect the future of Linux - which has been apparently adopted by so many other nations?

The US and the UK are not the only shows in town, you know!

Re: SCO to Reveal Allegedly Copied Code

Anonymous's picture

"SCO may have just successfully killed off open source"

Linux is not all of open source software. *BSD is probably safe since they don't use (especially OpenBSD) Linux's GPL'd code in the system (although some things distributed with them are GPL'd). In the case of OpenBSD, they won't even take hardware documentation under NDA. They audit all the code they include for license considerations (ipf and ntp as examples). If there is any truth to SCO's claims (that's a big if) then it does nothing to open source in general, except to discourage corporate involvement and make sure the developers are careful.

But that's just my $.02

Re: SCO to Reveal Allegedly Copied Code

Anonymous's picture

Could it be the other way round?

If SCO's unix is closed sourced and trade secrets, who is going to tell that it has not copied codes from Linux and now claims the other way round.

I have specific examples of the copied code!

Anonymous's picture

Hmm, let's see now...

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Those two characters are used all over the place! Copied directly from SCO's code, obviously.

Re: I have specific examples of the copied code!

Anonymous's picture

Yep - so do I! We've got them by the curlies!

Re: SCO to Reveal Allegedly Copied Code

Anonymous's picture

Isn't it funny SCO spent some time doing Linux Development? I wonder why would they do that?

Re: SCO to Reveal Allegedly Copied Code

Anonymous's picture

All this theats and FUDs must be beyond Microsoft's wildest wet dream!

Even if IBM doesn't pay up, MS would probably be happy to pay the $1Billion themselves for all these Linux/Unix bashing efforts. It doesn't matter which way the court case turns out, MS wins either way.

It is obvious that after all this affair, and regardless of how badly SCO manages to damage Linux, few IT manager in their right mind would touch any SCO software with a barge pole, just in case some thing in there pops up years later to catch them.

The origin and time of every line, every patch, every release of Linux code is traceable. This is independently backed up by thousand of people around the world. I doulbt very much if SCO code update is that traceable. It certainly would not be indepently/impartially witnessed. So if any code fragment is the same/similar in both Linux and SCO Unix, it could have been copied either way.

Re: SCO to Reveal Allegedly Copied Code

Anonymous's picture

Does it occur to anybody that this could be the work of M$ getting in on the inside at SCO, then doing their dirty work and leaving without a trace?
Worth investigating.

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Anonymous's picture

What if Microsoft is bankrolling SCO's lawsuits?

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Anonymous's picture

I think SCO's Chris Sontag is full of it ;-)

Unix deriviated from Multics, C was inspired from another language. Since the kernel is full of allegedly copied code, why have not SCO reacted earlier ? or was it after a mutal agreement with MS that they wanted to make noise...

OS code has been available in books and courses for more than 30 years. If one were to open MVS, MVT, OSVS1 and VM assemler code and compare it to "code" in Unix Oh ! What a surprise! You would find similiar function and VMM tech. Maybe one should ask SCO about those copyright one more time. I think SCO will get a big surprise when they will be put up against the wall.

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Anonymous's picture

You make an interesting point here. Let me carry it one step further. What if we were to open the Windoze code or even MS-DOS code. When DOS 2 came out they added this thing called a hierarchical file system (even with the ability to use / as the filename separator and - as the option indicator). Sounds like they might have some UNIX code in there too.
Oh, and the language C was based on was B which was based on BCPL. Made people wonder if the next language would be D or P. :-)

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Anonymous's picture

Looks like McBride is ignoring past comments by own employees http://news.com.com/2100-1001-222044.html

Re: SCO to Reveal Allegedly Copied Code

Anonymous's picture

Specifically this quote in article:

"SCO has made the Linux compatibility software source code--the original programming instructions--publicly available, he said, giving the code back to the open source programming community that has developed Linux."

Re: SCO to Reveal Allegedly Copied Code

Anonymous's picture

Why is there a need for NDA. Surely the code that is under suspicion is already publicly available and under GPL. Also this points to the fact that the release of SCO Linux would have to have been under the GPL and therefore any code that SCO contributed in SCO Linux would also be under the GPL and publicly available for reuse and enhancement.

Should this not mean that it's the right of the public, who develop, use and implement Linux, to view the claimed infringments in the code.

"Enhancement". This is the point that SCO seems to be missing. A certainty would be that they would have taken enhancements from the Linux and BSD developments and implemented these into their own SCO Unix versions.

McBride appears to have forgotten or misunderstood the meaning of the GPL. Maybe he should read it again http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html

Julz

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Anonymous's picture

It's easy to understand the words of the license, but I'm sure it's not easy for someone who only understand stock prices to grep the ideal behind the lincense: *we want to take the freedom that we deserve, and we respect the freedom of others*.

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Anonymous's picture

GO SCO GO, Show these assclowns how free Linux really is. Kiss it goodbye Linux dweebs your short reign is about to end. I cant wait until I see this magazine become the Windows Journal. Here is my Obit for Linux.

Linux OS

Born 1991
Died 2003

Linux was a good OS, until its chief developer decided to include Intellectual Property into it. Linux was a illegal bastardization of the UNIX OS, and the SCO Group ended its insignificant life. Linux will be missed by many, even tho it wasnt really that great. Everyone has adopted Linux's cousin Windows and they are much happier now. Poor Linux

Surviving is its soon to be dead meat by SCO. FreeBSD, which SCO will Sue the pants off and I hope they win.

And its creator Linus Torvalds, who is now considered a Windows expert and since he couldnt get a job in the tech industry, is now serving coffee at a convenience store every morning and cleaning the Slushi machines by night.

Goodbye Linux, enjoy your rot,

Oh a song

NA NA NA NA, NA NA NA NA, HEY HEY HEY, GOODBYE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: SCO to Reveal Allegedly Copied Code

Anonymous's picture

Even if sco win their legal suicide attempts, What will all the linux developers do to their servers and how many viruses are going to be only specific for the failed OS company?
The new sco site is thescogroup.com after so many DOS attacks to sco.com!
Anger can be a terrible thing for some people.
I know of only one company that uses thesantacruzgroup's software and they are removing it as I type.
That company is the single largest computer retailer in the UK!
Whaa blow - anti sco. GPL Forever!

Re: SCO to Reveal Allegedly Copied Code

Anonymous's picture

And just how long have you been smoking rock cocaine on the job? Thank you so very much for your obvious FUD. Looks like a job from Microsoft / SCO.... if you actally knew Jaque Schidt about the legal history of Unix / Linux you would know that SCO doesn't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of.

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Anonymous's picture

> Goodbye Linux, enjoy your rot,

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Watch out, fellow Linux users, this guy is trying to kill all us by making us laugh ourselves to death!

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Anonymous's picture

I am going to go WAY out on a limb and wager that you work for Microsoft.

What are you doing on the Linux Journal site? Don't you have other things to do? Some butt to kiss, or crappy code to write, or stock options to pray for, etc...

Go away.

Re: SCO to Reveal Allegedly Copied Code

Anonymous's picture

I'll go even further and say, He or she probably looks for GPL code and mungs it into MS code,
Either that or its a disgruntled original "Santa Cruise Operator"

Re: SCO to Reveal Allegedly Copied Code

Anonymous's picture

Hey wow, you write almost as well as the 7 year old child of one of the journalists who works here! You should apply for the under-8s writing competition, perhaps. Too old? Whoops, forget I suggested anything.

Yeah, yeah, I know you're joking - but this troll needs a kick in the teeth.

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