Saving the Net: How to Keep the Carriers from Flushing the Net Down the Tubes

We're hearing tales of two scenarios--one pessimistic, one optimistic--for the future of the Net. If the paranoids are right, the Net's toast. If they're not, it will be because we fought to save it, perhaps in a new way we haven't talked about before. Davids, meet your Goliaths.
Scenario III: Fight with Words and Not Just Deeds

All due credit to the EFF, Creative Commons and every other organization in the pro-Net alliance, but there isn't much hope of changing hearts and minds as long as we think and talk in the transport language of the telcos, cablecos and "content" producers. When we do that, we lose. Case in point: Eldred vs. Ashcroft. Larry Lessig and other good guys fought the good fight on Eldred and lost when the Supremes sided 7-2 with Ashcroft. In January, 2003, I suggested that one reason the good guys lost was, literally, linguistic:

I've been trying to collect my thoughts about the Eldred decision. At this point I think there are several contexts that need to be explored.

One is legal--constitutional, really. Larry and the lawbloggers (sounds like a good name for a band) are all over that one.

Another is political. The Sony Bono Act was a political creation in the first place, and the Supreme Court decision in its favor was a political victory for Hollywood (yes, print publishers had some interest in it, but the story plays as a Hollywood victory, complete with quotes from Jack Valenti and Hillary Rosen).

The third is metaphorical. I believe Hollywood won because they have successfully repositioned copyright as a property issue. In other words, they successfully urged the world to understand copyright in terms of property. Copyright = property may not be accurate in a strict legal sense, but it still makes common sense, even to the Supreme Court. Here's how Richard Bennett puts it:

The issue here isn't enumeration, or the ability of Congress to pass laws of national scope regarding copyright; the copyright power is clearly enumerated in the Constitution. The issue, at least for the conservative justices who sided with the majority, is more likely the protection of property rights. In order to argue against that, Lessig would have had to argue for a communal property right that was put at odds with the individual property right of the copyright holder, and even that would be thin skating at best. So the Supremes did the only possible thing with respect to property rights and the clearly enumerated power the Constitution gives Congress to protect copyright.

Watch the language. While the one side talks about licenses with verbs like copy, distribute, play, share and perform, the other side talks about rights with verbs like own, protect, safeguard, protect, secure, authorize, buy, sell, infringe, pirate, infringe, and steal.

This isn't just a battle of words. It's a battle of understandings. And understandings are framed by conceptual metaphors. We use them all the time without being the least bit aware of it. We talk about time in terms of money (save, waste, spend, gain, lose) and life in terms of travel (arrive, depart, speed up, slow down, get stuck), without realizing that we're speaking about one thing in terms of something quite different. As the cognitive linguists will tell you, this is not a bad thing. In fact, it's very much the way our minds work.

But if we want to change minds, we need to pay attention to exactly these kinds of details.

"The Commons" and "the public domain" might be legitimate concepts with deep and relevant histories, but they're too arcane to most of us. Eric Raymond has told me more than once that the Commons Thing kinda rubs him the wrong way. Communist and Commonist are just a little too close for comfort. Too social. Not private enough. He didn't say he was against it, but he did say it was a stretch. (Maybe he'll come in here and correct me or enlarge on his point.) For many other libertarians, however, the stretch goes too far. Same goes for conservatives who subscribe to the same metaphorical system in respect to property.

So the work we have cut out for us isn't just legal and political. It's conceptual. Until we find a way to win that one, we'll keep losing in Congress as well as the courts.

Helpful reading on a similar (and to some degree related) case: Metaphor, Morality, and Politics, Or, Why Conservatives Have Left Liberals In the Dust, by George Lakoff.

Larry Lessig replied:

Doc has a brilliant and absolutely correct diagnosis at the American Open Technology Consortium website about how we lost in Eldred. Copyright is understood to be a form of simple property. The battle in Eldred thus sounded like a battle for and against property. On such a simple scale, it was clear how the majority of the Court would vote. Not because they are conservative, but because they are Americans. We have a (generally sensible) pro-property bias in this culture that makes it extremely hard for people to think critically about the most complicated form of property out there--what most call "intellectual property." To question property of any form makes you a communist. Yet this is precisely our problem: To make it clear that we are pro-copyright without being extremists either way.

So deep is this confusion that even a smart, and traditionally leftist social commentator like Edward Rothstein makes the same fundamentally mistake in a piece published Saturday. He describes the movement, of which I am part, as "countercultural," "radical," and anti-corporate. Now no doubt there are some for whom those terms are true descriptors. But I for one would be ecstatic if we could just have the same copyright law that existed under Richard Nixon.

Our problem is, as Doc rightly points out, that we have so far failed to make it clear to the world who the radicals in this debate are.

The radicals in Larry's proximal debate are copyright extremists of the Sonny Bono school, which favors extension of copyright to "forever less one day". In this debate the radicals are the carriers. We need to fight them, just as Larry and crew need to fight the copyright extremists: by re-framing the subject.

To start we acknowledge the necessity of the transport metaphor; but also its insufficiency.

Of course, at its base level the Net is a system of pipes and packets. But it's not only packets, or "content" or anything for that matter). Understanding the Net only in transport terms is like understanding civilization in terms of electrical service or human beings only in terms of atoms and molecules. We miss the larger context.

That context is best understood as a place. When we speak of the Net as a "place" or a "space" or a "world" or a "commons" or a "market" with "locations" and "addresses" and "sites" that we "build", we are framing the Net as a place.

Most significantly, the Net is a marketplace. In fact, the Net is the largest, most open, most free and most productive marketplace the world has ever known. The fact that it's not physical doesn't make it one bit less real. In fact, the virtuality of the Net is what makes it stretch to worldwide dimensions while remaining local to every desktop, every point-of-sale device, every ATM machine. It is in this world-wide marketplace that free people, free enterprise, free cultures and free societies are just beginning to flourish. It is here that democratic governance is finally connected, efficiently, to the governed.

It is on and not just through--prepositions are key here--the Net that governments will not only derive their just powers from the consent of the governed but benefit directly from citizen involvement as well.

As a place, the Net has always been independent of the carriage on which it relies, which is one reason it also encourages and rewards independence. The independence of the Net and its inhabitants is precisely what accounts for countless new businesses and improved old ones.

The architecture of the Net's world is End-to-End (See "End to End Arguments in System Design" by J.H. Saltzer, D.P. Reed and D.D. Clark). In "The Rise of the Stupid Network", which he wrote for the benefit of his employer while he was still at AT&T, David Isenberg says "The Internet breaks the telephone company model by passing control to the end user. It does this by taking the underlying network details out of the picture." In "World of Ends", David Weinberger and I added:

The Internet is Stupid.

The telephone system, which is not the Internet (at least not yet), is damn smart. It knows who's calling whom, where they're located, whether it's a voice or data call, how far the call reaches, how much the call costs, etc. And it provides services that only a phone network cares about: call waiting, caller ID, *69 and lots of other stuff that phone companies like to sell.

The Internet, on the other hand, is stupid. On purpose. Its designers made sure the biggest, most inclusive network of them all was dumb as a box of rocks.

The Internet doesn't know lots of things a smart network like the phone system knows: Identities, permissions, priorities, etc. The Internet only knows one thing: this bunch of bits needs to move from one end of the Net to another.

There are technical reasons why stupidity is a good design. Stupid is sturdy. If a router fails, packets route around it, meaning that the Net stays up. Thanks to its stupidity, the Net welcomes new devices and people, so it grows quickly and in all directions. It's also easy for architects to incorporate Net access into all kinds of smart devices--camcorders, telephones, sprinkler systems--that live at the Net's ends.

That's because the most important reason Stupid is Good has less to do with technology and everything to do with value...

Adding value to the Internet Lowers its Value.

Sounds screwy, but it's true. If you optimize a network for one type of application, you de-optimize it for others. For example, if you let the network give priority to voice or video data on the grounds that they need to arrive faster, you are telling other applications that they will have to wait. And as soon as you do that, you have turned the Net from something simple for everybody into something complicated for just one purpose. It isn't the Internet anymore.

All the Internet's value grows on its edges.

If the Internet were a smart network, its designers would have anticipated the importance of a good search engine and would have built searching into the network itself. But because its designers were smart, they made the Net too stupid for that. So searching is a service that can be built at one of the million ends of the Internet. Because people can offer any services they want from their end, search engines have competed, which means choice for users and astounding innovation.

Search engines are just an example. Because all the Internet does is throw bits from one end to another, innovators can build whatever they can imagine, counting on the Internet to move data for them. You don't have to get permission from the Internet's owner or systems administrator or the Vice President of Service Prioritization. You have an idea? Do it. And every time you do, the value of the Internet goes up.

The Internet has created a free market for innovation. That's the key to the Internet's value.

The term "world of ends" was inspired by Craig Burton's characterization of the Net's "stupid" end-to-end architecture as a three-dimensional zero. "In fact," he says, "there's no other way to visualize a place comprised of nothing but ends, all zero distance from each other, where all the intelligence is on the outside". He adds, "It's important to remember that zero is the value here. You can't get in the middle of this world and say 'This zero isn't valuable enough. I'm going to improve it.' That would be like jumping in the middle of the Earth and saying 'I'm going to improve on this gravity business'."

While the Net's nature is a world-wide place, the Web's nature is a world-wide publishing system. The Web was invented by Tim Berners-Lee, a scientist who wanted a simple way documents could be published and read, anywhere in the world, without restriction by physical location or underlying transport system. That's why it has hypertext protocols, "languages" and "formatting" standards. It's also why we "write", "author" and "mark up" "documents" called "pages" and "files" which we "post", "publish" or "put up" so others can "index", "catalog" and "browse" them.

To sum up, the Net has all these natures:

  1. transport system (pipes)

  2. place (or world)

  3. publishing system

--and others as well. But those aren't at war with one another, and that's what matters most.

Right now #1 is at war with #2 and #3, and that war isn't happening only in the media and in congressional hearing rooms. It's happening in our own heads. When we talk about "delivering content to consumers through the Net", rather than "selling products to customers on the Net", we take sides with #1 against #2. We unconsciously agree that the Net is just a piping system. We literally devolve: our lungs turn to gills, our legs turn into flippers, and we waddle back into the sea--where we are eaten by sharks.

What I'm talking about here isn't "just semantics" or trivial in any other way. It's fundamental, especially to lawmaking and regulation.

For example, if we describe speech and publishing, that stuff the First Amendment protects as "content", then the rights granted to speech become subordinate to regulations governing carriage. Look into the metaphors used by the Supreme Court in its decision in favor of the National Cable & Telecommunications Association, et. al., in that group's suit against Brand X. Internet Services, et. al.:

The Communications Act of 1934, as amended by the Telecommunications Act of 1996, defines two categories of entities relevant here. "Information service" providers--those "offering"; a capability for [processing] information via telecommunications, 47 U.S.C. § 153(20)--are subject to mandatory regulation by the Federal Communications Commission as common carriers under Title II of the Act. Conversely, telecommunications carriers--i.e., those "offering" telecommunications for a fee directly to the public "regardless of the facilities used," §153(46)--are not subject to mandatory Title II regulation. These two classifications originated in the late 1970's, as the Commission developed rules to regulate data-processing services offered over telephone wires. Regulated "telecommunications service" under the 1996 Act is the analog to "basic service" under the prior regime, the Computer II rules. Those rules defined such service as a "pure" or "transparent" transmission capability over a communications path enabling the consumer to transmit an ordinary-language message to another point without computer processing or storage of the information, such as via a telephone or a facsimile. Under the 1996 Act, "[i]nformation service" is the analog to "enhanced" service, defined by the Computer II rules as computer-processing applications that act on the subscriber's information, such as voice and data storage services, as well as "protocol conversion," i.e., the ability to communicate between networks that employ different data-transmission formats.

In the Declaratory Ruling under review, the Commission classified broadband cable modem service as an "information service" but not a "telecommunications service" under the 1996 Act, so that it is not subject to mandatory Title II common-carrier regulation. The Commission relied heavily on its Universal Service Report, which earlier classified "non-facilities-based" ISPs--those that do not own the transmission facilities they use to connect the end user to the Internet--solely as information-service providers. Because Internet access is a capability for manipulating and storing information, the Commission concluded, it was an "information service." However, the integrated nature of such access and the high-speed wire used to provide it led the Commission to conclude that cable companies providing it are not "telecommunications service" providers. Adopting the Universal Service Report's reasoning, the Commission held that cable companies offering broadband Internet access, like non-facilities-based ISPs, do not offer the end user telecommunications service, but merely use telecommunications to provide end users with cable modem service.

Disregard for now the opacity of the prose and even the complete absence of the place and publishing metaphors that define the Net and the Web. Just look at the time scale involved. There are a series of regulatory regimes here, beginning with the Telecommunications Act of 1934. Today we operate under the Telecommunications Act of 1996. Reforms of that act are likely to remain law for a long time.

Meanwhile, we have Section 1464 (Broadcasting Obscene Language) in CHAPTER 71 - OBSCENITY in PART I - CRIMES of TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE of the United States Code, which forced the FCC to rationalize stomping all over the First Amendment. Look at the headings under Chapter 71, and you'll find that most of the sections (including 1464) begin with transportational verbs: Mailing, Importation, Broadcasting, Distribution, Transfer.

Thanks to the transport metaphor, the FCC can punish forms of speech it calls "obscene", "profane" or "indecent" and explain it in a document titled "content.html". The same victory of pipes over place accounts for this tortured entry in its Obscenity, Indecency & Profanity FAQ:

The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and Section 326 of the Communications Act prohibit the FCC from censoring broadcasters. The FCC does not, therefore, monitor particular programs or particular performers, but rather enforces the prohibition on obscenity, indecency and profanity in response to complaints.

Thanks to the transport metaphor, even relatively pro-market and pro-Net regulators, such as former FCC Chairman Michael Powell, speak about "consumers" having "rights" to "access" and "attach" to "connections" about which they should have "choices". In fact, the whole case for "protecting consumers" from bad content and its sources is framed in terms that reify the Net as a system of pipes.

One reason transport trumps place is that business itself is largely, though not entirely, conceived in shipping terms. The "value chain" is a transportational notion. We speak of "loading" goods into "channels" for "distribution" to "end users" or "consumers". We even talk about "delivering" services.

On the other hand, we have understood markets as places since marketplaces were the only kinds of markets we had. The metaphors that come naturally to Wall Street are helpful here. When we speak of "bulls", "bears" and "invisible hands", we assume those beings operate in an place-like environment. When we say markets have feelings--"excitement", "fear", "anticipation", "reaction"--we assume those happen in an environment (that is, a place) as well. Even "Wall Street" is ontologically locational. It is a real place that serves, by what cognitive linguistics call metonymy, for the whole stock market, which we also conceive of as a place.

Experience counts. Humans are physical beings. All of us who use the Net experience it as a place. Prepositions are revealing. We go on the Net, not through it.

In Metaphors We Live By, George Lakoff and Mark Johnson write:

... even where there is no natural physical boundary... we impose boundaries--marking off territory so that it has an inside and a bounding surface... There are few human instincts more basic than territoriality.

We who know and understand the territorial nature of the Net need to appeal to the same territorial sense in those we hope to win over with our arguments.

Advocating and saving the Net is not a partisan issue. Lawmakers and regulators aren't screwing up the Net because they're "Friends of Bush" or "Friends of Hollywood" or liberals or conservatives. They're doing it because one way of framing the Net--as a transport system for content--is winning over another way of framing the Net--as a place where markets and business and culture and governance can all thrive. Otherwise helpful documents, including Ernest Partridge's "After the Internet" fail because they blame "Bush-friendly conservative corporations" and appeal only to one political constituency, in this case, progressives. Freedom, independence, the sovereignty of the individual, private rights and open frontiers are a few among many values shared by progressives and conservatives. All are better supported, in obvious ways, by the Net as a place rather than as a transport system.

This is especially true of the Net as a place where free and open markets thrive. This is the Net that we built, where we have sites and locations and domains.

It is also important to describe what the Net is and how it works from the standpoint of technology itself: specifically those that create and enlarge the Net and its services. So we're talking here not just about HTTP and HTML but also XML and RSS. These reify the Net as a place where people and organizations speak and publish and produce and govern and build businesses and perform services. These are made possible, we should make clear, by the end-to-end nature of the Net and by the even-endedness of every participant.

We should avoid getting trapped by arguments about peer-to-peer sharing that drop us into the mud-pit of Hollywood's "piracy" fears and residual disdain by conservative lawmakers (still the majority) for anything that smacks of Communism. Unfortunately, that means we should also avoid talking about the Net as a "commons" except with those who understand the concept.

We need to make clear that the Public Domain is the market's underlying geology--a place akin to the ownerless bulk of the Earth--rather than a public preserve in the midst of private holdings. This won't be easy, but it can be done.

We need to stress the fact that the primary "end" in the Net's end-to-end architecture is the individual. The Net's success is due far more to the freedoms enjoyed by individuals than to the advantages enjoyed by large companies whose existence predates the Net.

We need to remind policy makers that the Net's biggest success stories--Amazon, Google, eBay and Yahoo--are the stories of Bezos, Page, Brin, Omidyar, Yang and Filo.

We need to make clear that the Net is the best public place ever created for private enterprise, and that the success of the Net owes infinitely more to personal initiative than to the mesh of pipes in the ground beneath it.

We need to show how the Net has its own nature, and that this nature is too dynamic--too original, too wild and free, too self-creating and self-correcting--for new lawmaking to comprehend, much less control.

We need to stress how the pipe-centric view of the world is responsible for the crippled and asymmetrical "consumer" service the carriers call "broadband". By restricting upstream use of the Net and biasing service to downstream "content delivery", the carriers have effectively outlawed personal and small business enterprise on the Net. This is one area where the carriers have been persistently clueless and hostile to the Net since the beginning, and we need to call them on it. (Required reading: John Perry Barlow's Death From Above, written in March 1995.)

I could go on, but I'd rather leave that up to the rest of you.

These are ideas, of course. I present them forcefully because I believe we--the technical community--are being called to fight for a world we made and continue to make. And one which is under grave threat.

That threat appears in many forms, all of which are easy to blame and attack. But all those forms are expressions of a simple concept: that the Net is, above all, a system of pipes. Those pipes are in fact below, not above. They support a World of Ends, but they don't define it.

Unless we let them.

A few final words about deeds. Right now we face a number of deadlines on anti-Net legislation being lobbied through Congress by what David Berlind calls "Tellywood", with help from the carriers. He explains the situation expertly:

So, in November 2003, the FCC instated a rule that, as of July 1, 2005, required all television receivers to include the anti-piracy technology. But prior to that day of reckoning, saying the FCC didn't have the authority to make such a rule, a federal court struck the mandate down on May 6. But the ruling wasn't a complete victory because it also said that Congress could pass a law to the same effect. So then, Congress got into the act (literally and figuratively). In June 2005, on the heels of the federal court's decision, Tellywood's lobbies looked to revive the mandate by getting the Senate to sneak an amendment into a largely unrelated spending bill (Gee, deja vu. Certain Massachusetts' Congresspeople are looking to screw the OpenDocument Format with the same unrelated-bill-ammendment technique). But the "fair rights lobby" [sic] raised a stink and the Senate Appropriations Committee thankfully punted. Then, in September, 20 members of Congress who were clearly looking out for the fair use rights of the people they represent (not) called for a reinstatement of the broadcast flag mandate. Earlier this month however, some members of the U.S. House of Representatives remained unconvinced that such broadcast flag legislation wouldn't marginalize fair use rights.

As if it isn't bad enough that certain Congresspeople are looking to stifle fair use rights with broadcast flag related legislation, the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) and the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) are pushing two other fair-use rights limiting bills on Congress.

David goes on to talk about how the RIAA helped author the HD Radio Content Act of 2005, which would prevent you from recording anything off the digital signals slated to replace the analog ones still on radios today. He adds:

As if the HD Radio Content Protection Act of 2005 doesn't tighten the noose enough, there's also the Analog Content Security Preservation Act of 2005. A November 3, 2005-dated draft of the proposed legislation is available from the Electronic Frontier Foundation. The idea behind this legislation, which has the backing of the MPAA, is to make it illegal for consumer device manufacturers not to plug the infamous analog hole (another hole in the leaky dam).

The list goes on. Read it. Then contact your Congresspeople. Tell them to keep the Net open and free and to vote against any legislation meant to protect any industry from "threats" they see coming from a new world they refuse to understand.

And, as the end of the year approaches, be sure to send your tax-deductible contributions to the EFF, Creative Commons and other organizations working with you to save the Net.

Doc Searls is Senior Editor of Linux Journal, for which he writes the Linux for Suits column. He also presides over Doc Searls' IT Garage, which is published by SSC, the publisher of Linux Journal.


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Doc's picture

Is that the same freedom that requires the amateurs to aquire federal approval before raising their voice. More specifically, the FCC controls HAMs through licensing which is purposely exclusionary and limiting. Can your mother grab hold of a HAM microphone and start transmitting such as she could set up a website to express her views? How is this freedom?

There is NO freedom in HAM in the United States. NONE.

Interestingly enough, if

Anonymous's picture

Interestingly enough, if millions of Americans bought HAM radios and just started using them like Citizen Band Radios, HAM-specific regulations would go the way of alcohol prohibition after juries rightfully decided not to convict someone for fermenting grapes, distilling grains, and/or drinking/distributing a liquid called alcohol.

Such is also the case with many other "regulated" activities.

Most states still have anti-sodomy laws on the books but you don't see your next door neighbors, Ozzy and Harriet, being persecuted and prosecuted for the mutually consensual personal erotic enjoyment that they personally enjoy/prefer. Same goes for Ozzy and Ozzy also.

I can't wait til we by-pass the tubes and pipes of the telcoms and tvcoms for our own privately created and maintained long-range WiFi and perhaps microwave/satnet systems.


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The internet sure is an open

Architects India's picture

The internet sure is an open market for innovation and whether an industry likes it or not they can, will and have to realize the fact that their business can thrive because of the power internet. As an architect the internet broadens your perspective in more ways than one.

Language follows from concept

Todd Boyle's picture

Thank you for the comments on framing, and the Lakoff citation. I think of the Internet differently than you because I think of information itself, differently. To me, information is the ocean of symbols that people generate, mostly misleading and untruthful, for their various purposes. For example, people and organizations work most of their waking hours exaggerating the benefits of everything they sell or do, and trying to hide or minimize the harms and costs of their behavior. With what little time remains, after creating our BS, we try to decipher the stream of BS from other people and orgs.

The *only* reason cable or telecom was ever valuable in the first place, either to users or to capitalists who built them, is because of the value of information itself.

Real outcomes in life are often decided more by the manipulation of what is in the other guy's mind than by real or tangible things.

I tell my city council, Verizon and Comcast are intent on screwing me out of access to information about all of life's choices: what I can buy, or what I can sell, or what my political choices are. An information service is not a commodity like pork bellies, or real estate. Its value is a function of its control over all the other value in the economy. Are we to sit idly by, as the communication media extract the entire marginal value of every other product and service, rendering them commodities?

No, this is about more than property rights over their cable plant.

A mere investment in cable plant isn't going to get you control over the entire human project, sorry about that. In fact, it seems inevitable that the cable plant (I include wireless and spectrum) is going to have to be nationalized or socialized, one way or another. The carriers have gotten so powerful that the people of this country have lost the ability to manage them. I say, nationalize the cable plant. It has been paid for by ratepayers within a regulated monopoly, many times over. How stupid are we? I tried to explain this in my essay at

Saving the Net

Shabetai Perera's picture

Internet is a network of computers, nothing more and nothing less. If it were not for open colusion between carriers, cost of bandwith should and eventually will become negligible (see: game theory, prisoners' dilemma). Content has value so content providers will rule the internet. Content providers will enforce copyrights, sometimes to the extreme (see SONY and CD piracy) but unless they can patent ones and zeroes (Onion headline: Microsoft patents ones and zeroes!) they should be given their legitimate rights and will not be a threat.

The Disaster will not happen

Michelle's picture

To put it simply ...

We have a handful of telecommunication companies versus tons of businesses and corporations making money off the average internet users. Google, Microsoft, the W3C and countless others are on our side, they will fight for us, I'm not worried at all.

The Future of the Internet And How To Stop It

Al Sherwood's picture

Jonathan Zittrain has written a paper called the "Future of the Internet and How To Stop It." I'm interested in anyone who has read it and their analysis in the context of Doc's comments. Is it an apology for those who are trying to extend IP into everything in our lives and choke the Net of creativity or is it a realistic appraisal about compromises that must be made to preserve and extend what we have helped create via the Internet and the Web.

It's all about greed, control and power. Same as usual.

Anonymous's picture

If they get away with it in America, dont think you'll be safe in Europe or China. Money and greed have no political or geographical boundries. And Globalization with corporations is happening whether you like it or not. How really far off is a Robocop type world where a few large corporations control everything, including the Internet and your access to it.

I think this battle is already lost anyway, and the cable companies etc.. know it. Google did the right thing; if you dont like it build your own..

Time to get pioneering again and open some new frontiers. And this time set laws and rules that prevent it [ The New Net] from being mis-used this way again. Using the US Constitution as a backbrace for the right of every citizen to have Free access to the Net .

We build a New infrastructure outside of The Old Internet and use our Rights of Access as a Gateway while maintaining our own unique Internet outside that is not controlled by anyone, anywhere as it should be.

It's happening already and you can be sure all the geeks like many of us are building neighborhood and community networks to file share and play games thats already a seperate entity from the internet, while maintaining a open Gateway back into the WWW when we want access.

Together with the Universities and other neutral private industry groups we can set up a new Internet.

and we better do it before the big guys somehow figure out how to lock us out of the wireless bandwidth or restrict us in such a way that a New Internet will be crippled and un-usable.

Or something like charging consumers for bandwidth on the wireless 802.11 even if they do not actually own the transmitting equipment.

Like the Post Office wanting to tax US consumers for using email because it caused profit losses with regular first class mail. Of course even though the post office does not even own the internet or even have the right.

It's just to complicated for the average citizen [American] to grasp and most simply do not care if it isnt directly interfering with the usual trip to the mall or coffehouse.

As a tech I can tell you 90% of my friends and customers do not even really know what the Net is: or care. They will simply eat whatever they're fed as long as it looks nice on the outside and smells good.

They will not notice or even care if it's different on the inside. And we the people who care about keeping The Net True are too few in numbers and resources. Like really, when WAS the last time you schmoozed your money grubbing local politician with a free lunch or box seats at the B-Ball game ? We've already been sold out.

We will simply need to build another net. And I'm sure if we are not careful it may become illegal to even do that; imagine.
It would be easy to bog down starting any type of New Internet infrastructure with rules and regulations that only those with deep pockets can abide by.

Or worst yet taxing the broadband 802.11 wireless spectrum and forcing anyone who uses it to identify themselves with a callsign that must be registered which in turn will allow your bandwidth usage to be monitored, controlled and taxed. Anyone then transmitting on these frequencies without paying taxes and the proper ID can be considered criminals: thats you and me. You'll have people like meter maids driving around with rf sniffers looking for Airwave thieves.

Can they tax the Free air, sure. They can do anything they want if we let them.

We need a new internet.

Please excuse any typo's.

Internal USA error

maclav13's picture

Hope this is a problem of USA only and no other country shall follow it. The Internet is hopefully so dumb it shall not realize it is splitted in two.

Re: Internal USA error

Rick Scrub's picture

I doubt that 8-))))

All this trends swap to europe with some months/years delay. Hope this is not happening here.

Local reflections and thoughts

Brian R.'s picture

The global consequences of these issues are HUGE. The world is full of localities feeling the effects. Here is a link to my thoughts about the difficulties getting a free muni network in Chapel Hill, NC. Angry BellSouth and Anti-Public Good Chapel Hill Business I link to this article. I belive "Saving the Net" provides important historical information. Thank you Doc!


Anonymous's picture

The big fear is commoditization, a la long-distance. It costs cable companies $5.00 to $9.00 per month to provide internet connectivity to a home where the fee is $20.00 to $45.00 per month. That kind of margin could make several trainloads of millionaries as opposed to a handful of billionaires. Layer that with IP based content providers who can give 100% customizable programming, funded with micropayments from users who aren't wading thru gobbidge (think QVC) to get to it and the connectivity providers realize it's game over.

Re: Bravo

Paddy Forsmann's picture

Well - the profit-margin is OK, in my opinion. Of course "the cheaper, the better" ... but it is not too expensive. There are other countries, like Thailand (where I live in), where for a slow 256 Megabit-Line you have to pay 25$ to 50$. Dont ask about the prices of "real Internet". 8-))))

the net and "peak oil"

Artie's picture

"The Information Age may be here, but the Industrial Age is hardly over. In fact, there is no sign it will ever end."

I was with you, Doc, 'till this point. You make some spot-on observations about the 'net, the carriers, content makers and us little guys, but you have completely overlooked the energy component of it all.

In fact, there are many credible signs that the Industrial Age is nearing an end. While you still can, google for "peak oil." Read Matthew Simmons, James Howard Kunstler, and dozens of others who are already discussing what will happen when it takes a gallon of oil to pump a gallon of oil out of the ground.

Eventually the energy costs of running the global 'net - combined with the greedy machinations of the carriers and the content creators - will force small communities of like-minded individuals to buy and run their own LANs, rings, etc. and who knows how these smaller nets will interact?

That's a question I'd like to see answered here.


What's next?

Doc Searls's picture

Ken Deffeyes of Princeton wrote Hubbert's Peak in 2001, and followed it this year with Beyond Oil. The man knows what he's talking about and I believe him.

And i agree that the time will come when power will necessarily shift to the personal, and the local.

As for the Industrial Age ending, I wasn't talking about any of that, but about the persistent asymmetries of power between supply and demand, formed during the Industrial Age, and persisting well beyond the present. The End of that may be coming, but I'm not sure it's in sight, even withstanding Hubbert's Peak.

Doc Searls is the Editor in Chief of Linux Journal

We Can't Win, or Can We?

Another Guy's picture

The subject of my comment says it all. We have no chance of winning. We the people that is- the people who feed the fat mouths of the fat businesses who bully us to feed them more. We the little people compared to the "big people" of the big businesses who run not only the US, but the world. The funny thing is that we the people, or most of them that is, let it happen. We are still letting it happen today. Don't like your isp? Then go WiFi. Don't have WiFi access, then make one. But it sure as hell won't be cheap.
The problem with the companies today (Sony, biggest example) is that they treat us worse than dog crap. They treat us like criminals when we are the ones who bought/buy thier products-in our own damn country.
These companies are going to a far reach to be able to tell us we can't download this, access this, or view that. F*** them, I say. I pay good money to connect to this internet that is maintained (the place, not the pipes) by the people.
(Now going to talk about piracy) The companies such as the RIAA and MPAA shouldn't fight the people who are "stealing" "thier" content. I think they should embrace it. So what if they lose a couple of pennies out of thier fat buldging pocket. As long as people like the music, I think that if they are responsible enough and don't want to waste a lot of GBs, then they go buy the CD. But this entire DRM crap is ridiculous. There's always another way around it, there will always be.
The problem is the big companies who are sitting in thier 42 room houses smoking pipes and sipping on $300 wine think that the American and world "consumers" are nothing but idiots who can't even live without the microwave or television. That's why they can't win in this way. We the people are too smart and can figure a way around the DRM, flags, and etc. It may take a year, it may take ten, or even a hundred years for us to find an alternative to the internet where it may be a free place to share ideas and information, and be free from the communications market. And possibly free.
The companies who think that the American society is made up of degenerates and losers are the ones who will eventually lose. The modern computers were made by geeks and nerds still in school. Not some fancy technicians who were paid big bucks to be able to throw together a hard drive, a processer, a motherboard and a cooling unit all in a bright excessed case. How does this relate to the whole pipes deal? It relates to it in a similar way. What the global consumers don't realize is that the telecommunication industry isn't that smart. If you were to ever watch "The History of Hacking", it shows the original Captain Crunch and Steve Wozniak(co-founder of Apple) who "hacked" the phone systems with a little box that made dial noises to be able to get free calls to anywhere in the world.
That wasn't long ago. The communication industry didn't just jump off it's butt and get smart with technology. The smartist thing in the world is the human brain, not the computer, not a machine, and not pipes assigned by a big company. You have to be smarter than the object you are using. I know there are brains out there who can make a free alternative to the internet in very little time. Its all will power and the ability to pry yourself from a computer screen and the television.
Sure the future internet may not be completely free, it shouldn't be. As long as its free from wires and out of the greedy business leader's hands, and into the public's then thats alright with me. It shouldn't be free, but it shouldn't cost you a half of your check a month. This is so because it costs money to run a WiFi station. It needs to be maintained by people. I can tell you right now that something such as WiFi can be much cheaper than installing wires and pipes into each individual household-as long as it has a stable and distant signal.
All of that is for the future, but right now we the people are losing a battle on our own turf. The sad part is we are helping them and not ourselves. If you want to help feed this albatross of an industry, then thats your choice, but I myself would love to see something that evey person on the earth deserves- freedom of speech and free of charge from it.
And would the governments like this idea? Hell no, but for thier information its none of thier damn business. All they are supposed to do is enforce the laws of the states/country(s), not control the economy and everything that happens in it(unless communist).
If I am wrong about anything, then feel free to correct me. But I stand by my points.

This is not protection

Anonymous's picture

This is not about protection its about control.

I don't want to make your day any WORSE, but ...

mrG's picture

I do hope you've read Kim Veltman's 2004 paper "American Visions of the Internet: A Crisis of Trust" ... easily reason for 1001 sleepless nights; if you know Kim, you'll know he's not the sort to fly off the handle, over-reacting to imagined dangers, and certainly not the sort to make this stuff up.

Thanks for raising this issue (again) and I hope others in prominence among this community will follow your lead, sift the fact and factions from the rhetoric and speak out. (see also Lawrence Lessig's comments on this issue in Foreign Policy)

This issue is important, more so now than ever before, and more and more with each passing page of legislation and corporate policy. It's important we raise awareness and put out a call to action NOW because mass apathy and denial has only so far landed us in a far worse pickle.

Also, maybe worth a footnote too, speaking of Vint, that the short-lived ISOC "Internet Societal Task Force" that he had founded expressly to defend an "Internet for Everyone" was shut-down unceremoniously post 9/11, co-incidentally just after presenting a draft position paper condemning American influence from shutting down the entire Internet across Nigeria on the grounds of "terrorist connections", both actions being blanket and instantaneous knee-jerk moves that really should put chills down more spines among those who believe everything is 'copacetic'.

What the Internet is

Jacob Hallén's picture

I think you are going down the wrong path trying to define what
the Internet is, in terms of pipes, market place etc.

To me, the Internet is an electronically based outdoors. While
you can hold a market in the outdoors, the outdoors is not a

You can run pipes (and roads and tracks) through the outdoors,
but the outdoors is not a set of pipes.

Just as I can step out my front door and go to anybody elses house,
I can step out through my socket port and go to anybody elses socket.

I think lawmakers and law interpreters have no notion or
understanding of this whatsoever. The reason is that we have
failed to explain what the Internet is. We have just been talking
about some of the things you can do with it.


jbond's picture

Great article, but damn if it isn't US-Centric through and through. In my deepest moments late at night, I really wish the US would set up "The Great Wall of America" and prevent any internet trafic in and out of the continental United States. Then the rest of us in Europe, SE Asia and elsewhere could get on with building internet activity without constantly being distracted by US law and money. And the chilling effect of US Law being exported elsewhere.

Back in the early days of the net, UK ISPs like Demon used to buy their own pipes across the atlantic. We speculated on what would happen if these were cut off. Would the US disappear off the net from the point of view of Europe? And the answer is not really and only for 5 minutes. Market demand would make a new supply profitable and a new supply would appear. You hint at the same solution. If the Cable companies and Telcos close off access and make it awkward, market demand will drive new entrants whether it's Google, a Muni Wifi or a bunch of linksys hackers that figure out how to do Wifi mesh on a large scale.

Which brings me to the Alternet. The NEA principle of the current internet is also global and ultimately unstoppable as long as we keep building out at the edge. There'll always be some clever coders in Estonia who will attract attention from some VC in Brazil, set up in Malaysia and get critical mass in China (or whatever). And SBC's customers will sart using it and demanding it long before they work out how to block it.

let it be

Zeroth's picture

The internet was great idea, tainted by greed. The internet is about freedom of information exchange. Thats it. It is where brilliant minds collaberate on projects that will help the internet, and in turn, humanity. The internet as it is now is corrupt with corporations just trying to make another dollar. So if we truley will have to pay to use any aspect of the internet, if it is not trule open and limitless, then let it be. Thoes who really care about freedom of information will resort to something better. maybe we'll all regress back to the Bulletin board days.

What really needs to be done is this: Thoes that truely care about freedom of information, and this virtual playground, need to create a nonprofit telecommunications company.

Farfetched? just imagine it: No restricitons, no fees, just a world-wide lan party.

for let it be

jony's picture

Very beautiful idea but regrettably this not possible, all world shift to the right money

non-profit telcom

pdor's picture

I've started and sold one successful for profit telecom company. Flesh out for me how a non-profit one would be financed and function. I might be interested.

We need an Un-telecom Paradigm

Anonymous's picture

Non-profit telecom? Why not? Lots of talk and good ideas here (Thanks again for your leadership, Doc), but the remedy in the end is more action at the grassroots and out on the ends of the networks (and please, a dose of optimism and hope, folks - the big telecos are strong, but they're looking backward and chasing the past, after all, while we're chasing the future down - that's positive! I'm with is making creative destruction ever more real in our lives - go out and light some candles and sell a new paradigm - now's the time to do it).

We need action in the form of new businesses that show a different way and shuck the old paradigms completely. We saw a lot of that at SXSW in Austin last week. Focus on what the new technologies make possible and let go of the old paradigms, which hold you back - I'm with Susan Crawford who says - "oh, forget about RBOCs and other dinosaurs - let's focus on the future and building a bypass network!"

Neighborhoods and communities now have the tools to build their own telecommunications networks, they just don't realize it yet - on a true "micro-coop" basis - these micronets will be the opposite of the large telecoms, in every sense of the word. The BIG TELECOM model is defunct and running on momentum - considerable momentum, sure, but friction will cause it to slow down. If we learned anything from all those failed CLECs, it was that you don't beat the telecoms at their own game, you change the rules!

The dumb pipe Internet, extended to the last mile with the new technologies that drive community wireless Internet (CuWin model/FON/commercial mesh/pt to pt/WiMax - pick your flavor, we'll see all of those models gain steam before the year is out) now enable cheap voice as an IP application, and increasingly we see business models whose pricing tends towards enough to give away telecom and make money on other services, which will undercut the telecoms and hit them where it hurts with erosion of ratepayers /customers.

The fact is that we are in permanent Beta out on the cutting edge, and we know it and are building our businesses to accommodate that new reality. On the other side of town, that's NOT how the large Telecoms work - they are too big and too slow to match the pace of change in today's global economy. Their backward looking vision of Big Controls All looks more and more like the old centrally planned economic plans in Moscow. Those corporate planners are too high up in their penthouse suites to see what's happening down here on teh ground. Fact is, they are up against a formidable multitude of creative, competitive companies that customers like. New business models can literally run circles around their old models, which rely on favorable regulations and rigged markets to stay in power. The creation of new Googles and eBays will get legislators' attention also - small businesses can innovate and grow into large businesses. Steve Jobs gets it, even as he is confused on DRM, he is still out there innovating with the Mac, Pixar, and iPod. Creativity will win out, and it's just that here in the US, the telecoms are currently so dominant that we tend to think that they're impregnable. But they're not creating anything new. I'm convinced that technological advances and new businesses and enlightened thinking like we see in this dialogue will combine to erode the power of the anti-free Internet Luddites over the next five years. The bigger they come, the harder they fall... If we believe in that future and act on our beliefs together, we can make it happen. My final word - Big Technology will trump Big Telecom - my bets on the bits and bytes in dumb pipes. Toll roads only work when you can't go off-road, and we can go off-road.

The Answer: Register "Civil Companies"

Gakuru's picture

In saving internet’s resilience, consumers (and the internet community) must redefine business and how it is currently licensed, conducted and perceived. Advocate for paradigm change (not a shift in redefining Corporate Social Responsibility


Anonymous's picture

I find it interesting that the same folks who worry so much about effective govt. regulation of exponentially-powerful processes -- such as the organic growth of the Internet -- are also usually major consumers of Gibson, et al, sci-fi yet don't see how contradictory these two visions are. We've seen the future. Big Brother can't win. Information is out of the bag, and neither Ed Whitacre nor DRM-crazy Steve Jobs nor the chairman of the FCC are going to be able to shove it back in. The future is too chaotic and viral in its growth path to be rigidly managed, there's ALWAYS a route-around, especially since most restrictions and regulations don't make true ECONOMIC sense -- the unrestricted flow of cash may be the ultimate route-around.

Well... I wish I had your

njs's picture

Well... I wish I had your confidence. We haven't seen the future; Gibson is called "fiction" for a reason.

There are only a small finite number of ways to build a network with global connectivity, and there can only be a small finite number of such independent networks. The only methods I know of are "lay lots of wires" (fantastically capital and labor intensive, therefore controlled by BigCo's and government), and "invent clever, robust, attack-resistent mesh routing for radio" (still theoretical, maybe it's possible, maybe it isn't, and how long will the FCC keep letting you use that spectrum once the BigCo's complain about people using it to infringe copyrights and such things?).

I _like_ Gibson. But if he contradicts physics... I think physics will win.

Well said!

bryan's picture

Anonymous: well said. The economics have to be viable, and Doc's dark view forgets that.

It's almost like Doc's arguing with himself here. In this and other material he keeps saying that markets are conversations, and any company which tries to make it a one-side conversation will end up dead. Yet here he seems to be suggesting that the telcos would be able to succeed at that one-side conversation.

Seriously, the basis of the article is a crock. There may be something to the vocabulary shifts he suggests in part 3, but I'm still too distracted by the nonsense in part 1 to fully digest that other stuff yet!

Saving the Net

Dr. Bob Hacker's picture

Good Morning:
This article could not have been more right on except for a slight scope creep to include the entire culture of the USA. It is clear to almost anyone with a little reading of American History that we have a clear effort that some call "NEOCON" and the like to restore the Royal Family (BUSH etc) as we had back in 1776. Anybody remember what happened back then; there were monopolies on just about everything.
The essence of Royalty is Monopoly; forget the rest! Use of the military to enforce a Monopoly is also a fundemental explanation of most wars; in the case of Oil, we have WW1 (Baku in Russia), WW2 (Romania, Korea, VietNam (S.China Sea), Falklands (Big Dome on the subsurface nearby), Iraq (#2 Oil province). It is clear to me!

By the way, many monopolies have led to violent Revolution as in France, Russia, USA, Iran, ......

Cry wolf

Christopher Coulter's picture

Cry wolf again and again....for raw profit. Fight a mythical beast,
collect the rewards. If said calamity never happens (which it never
will), why that just means your forces battled down the gates and won.
And you can proclaim that they got a "clue", thanks our "prescient
revelations". It won't ever happen. So crying wolf, only sets the stage of yourself forever as the protector. It's Techie Witchdoctoring. You can't lose.

Slaying the invisible dragon -- writing books, collecting speaking
fees, living a famed-honored Prophets life, being rich, being talk of
town and the party of it all.

Nice little con-game.

"Nice little

final answer's picture

"Nice little con-game."

Sounds just like Iraq.

invisible dragons, enemy "threats", and when the threat subsides(wich it won't, how convenient) can thank the knights in white house shining armor for..."keeping you safe".

I feel so cozy in my american bubble, look ma, the emperor has no clothes out for bird flu poo-poo too, the threats are everywhere, coming from all directions...would you like to buy my thimerisol laced anthrax vaccine? $49.95 at your local wal-mart.

Please continue shopping citizens.

Monopoly: Is it a word or intellectual property?

Marc Townsend's picture

Very well written piece of thinking. It instigates many different ideas inside of the conversation. None of which are easy to consider.

I feel a sense of pride towards developers in the Linux community. The roots of this work are extremely powerful and valuable. The world, and certainly America, are lucky to have your influence. It inspires myself to be one of the many.

I wonder what your thoughts on these ideas are? I realize it is too early in the game to know what will come of them, but aesthetically, as ideas... where do they fall?

This conversation goes pretty deep into the rabbit hole, depending how deep you are willing to travel. Not sure any of us have the stamina to change the world.

But I have an 8 month old son. He loves the computer. More to the point, he loves the Internet... even further he loves the content the pipes carry... actually, he just loves the lights in the monitor display... no, actually its the sound in the speakers... or is it something else entirely...?

My son has no idea what "rights" are. He has no concern for "protocols". He is just a living breathing human being seeking out things that make his experience more appealing. It is human nature to be curious and interested.

Our laws either protect and enhance the human condition, or they manipulate and enforce a human condition.

So in the strictest sense of the American conversation we are having about the Internet, the perameters are defined by the governing philosophy that constitutes our nation as a sovereign geography.

Tom's post made me ask myself "But where does the 'retreat & rebuild' creedo end?"

And Doc' reference to the Public Domain as the market's underlying geology--a place akin to the ownerless bulk of the Earth... reminded me to point out that there is no such thing as "an ownerless bulk of the Earth". Every part of this world is owned... by national boundaries.

And that brought me back to my son. Because I know that the United States of America believes it owns my son because he was born a citizen of this nation...just as I was. He was issued his state (social security) identity just to prove the point.

But I am a Virginian. And I remember the reason General Robert E Lee chose to command the Confederate Army against the Union Army that he was asked to lead. I remember that a large body of people on this planet at one time fought with their lives NOT to be participants in the next stage of America's development... as one federal system of governance. I know that the world we now live within as American's exists as a chosen path.

And knowing these things gives me a strange sense of peace.

America will be at a crossroads for some time to come. Those of us at the cutting edges of America will be fighting for ideas that have been fought for before... although never quite like this.

The Civil War was not about Slavery of black people. It was about changing business models. Employment is a much more empowered model than enslavement. The South never had a chance. But, that does not necessarily mean that a federal democracy is better than local democracies engaged in collaborative models of free exchange.

And now that we are entering the global market development stage of world histroy, the same battle lines are being drawn. Except this time it isnt about enslavement or employment... its about who or what owns your life.

Your mind is the ultimate prize.
Your body is your limiting physical geography.

Do you own either?

In an economic world... ie, one based on the invention or money... there is one thing better than "free".


Yes, we do have a communication problem.

America, as a legitimate leader of the world as a civilization of ideas, needs to be re-constituted. It needs to be re-unionized.

The internet and all of its disparate tachnologies are the tools that present the opportunity to bring about this change. But the mountain left to climb is a steep one. Would you give your life to climb it?

Entrepreneurship versus employment. Individual creativity versus centralized creativity.

What do you own?

We can in now way resemble a communist idea. Private ownership is the highest ideal of any socio-economic system. And yet, who owns the government that owns America...or any nation for that matter? As physical assets are constructed... roads, pipes, homes, etc... civilizations grow farther and farther away from the point that one life... a newborn babies life... enters the world. Ignorant of all things but self. Do newborn lives own anything?

Until the answer is determined to the affirmative... you are at risk. Your society is at risk. And no innovation should ever be viewed as a sure thing. You must fight for what you have been given... for the freedoms that have slipped, or been snuck through the cracks.

Thank you Vint Cerf for rescuing what we have today from the government's control through DARPA. That is our new beginning.

Freedom to create.
Freedom to own.

What words can transcend those ideas, without carrying ourselves backwards?

The quest continues...

You blew it about...

pb's picture

... here:

The Civil War was not about Slavery of black people. It was about changing business models.

'Nuff said.

the west

Gnoll110's picture

As an Australian, it's my understanding that the US civil war was about who would control the new western lands. Would the new territories (future states) be in the northern or southern spheres of influence?

The South saw that the North was winning more territories than the South was prepared to accept. The South wanted to take its bat & ball and go home, but the North wouldn’t let it, to the point of violence.

We know the rest of the story.


Sierra's picture

I really appreciated and say thank you for Keep up the great work online

States' rights. Come on,

ronny's picture

States' rights. Come on, anyone who's made it through 9th grade knows that.

How did (s)he blow it?

aminorex's picture

It seems patently true. Lincoln didn't want to free the slaves, as he repeatedly emphasized. Clearly the war was just about the raw excercise of sheer power. It was a war of the federal system against the people of the states, in which several of the states allied with the federal system. To insist that emancipation of slaves was a significant motivating factor in the prosecution of that war is to ignore the statements of the principals involved, preferring the mythology promoted by the brutal victor to justify their crimes over and against the simple and plain truths of historical fact.

Raw Exercise in Sheer Stupidity

LuneKeltkar's picture

You say, "Clearly the [Civil] war [sic] was just about the raw excercise [sic] of sheer power." Now there's a real insight, let me catch my breath in awe and admire such frightful intelligence. What war has ever been about anything but the raw exercise of power? The questions of wars center on their causes, and slavery most certainly was a motivational issue in the US Civil War. Any pretense otherwise is pure malarky. It falls right into the same cesspool being shoveled by the skinheads who claim that the Holocaust is all just a Jewish fiction invented to win world sympathy, poor fellows.

This sub-thread about slavery and the Civil War exactly shows the importance of the linguistic arguments advanced in this article. You say that it's "patently true" that the Civil War wasn't about slavery, and you try a linguistic sleight of hand to make that point. I say that your stance is a full stinking crock that's been sitting by the outhouse too damn long. You say that Lincoln didn't want to free the slaves. I say that he did. It's all in how we choose to frame the issue linguistically.

A lot gets wrapped up in words, because words significantly frame our perceptions of the world, and thus guide the actions that we take in that world. That's the argument at the heart of this article.

And "the mythology of the brutal victor"? Aw, please. Go back to second grade and start all over again.

Slavery, and the civil war

Zeb Packard's picture

Go to this link and read.

Abraham Lincoln was absolutely, brilliant for deciding to free the slaves. He was not necessarily, a humanitarian for it though. The slaves were freed in an effort to keep foreign forces out of the war. This is how I was taught by an African American History teacher in 8th grade. Also, worth noting here is the fact that racism has only, recently, been made illegal. The "civil" rights movement was humanitarian NOT the "civil" war. Pretending, white Americans have been decent to black Americans for over 200 years is the linguistic equivalent of saying the holocaust never happened.

Bound to get back on-topic

Slavery and the Civil War

LuneKeltkar's picture

Actually, to me this sub-thread is on topic, in the sense that it's an exploration of the way that we (to some extent undeterminable at present) partly create the world around us by the way we frame it linguistically. I never made any claims, for instance, that anyone (Lincoln or otherwise) acted from humanitarian impulses during the struggle over slavery. That was your linguistic framing, not mine, so you're in effect responding to a world (the stuff about humanitarianism) that you (not I) created.

I also said nary a word about race relations in the US since the time of the Civil War. Thus, any pretence that "white Americans have been decent to black Americans for over 200 years is the linguistic equivalent of saying the holocaust never happened" is a linguistic equivalence that you pulled from your head, not mine. I certainly don't harbor that pretence.

One last point, which does stray a bit from the linguistics angle, but you might want to actually read the Emancipation Proclamation. Your eighth-grade history teacher got it all wrong. First, Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation in his military role as Commander in Chief of the US federal forces, so it was a military (not a political) act. Second, contrary to a widely held misconception, Lincoln didn't free all the slaves: He only freed the slaves in slave-holding states in rebellion against the United States. The slaves in states loyal to the Union remained slaves, even after Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation. The Emancipation Proclamation was indeed a brilliant military, political, and economic blow against the states in rebellion, but the whole bloody mess was still about slavery.

All of the foregoing is meant to come back around to a centrally important concept in the article that started all this: The ways that we linguistically shape our issues largely determines the ways that we and other people deal with those issues.

A Possible Small Window of Freedom

Anonymous's picture

I wonder if the advancement in HAM radio TCP/IP migth afford a small window of complete freedom. If enough progress is made on the kind of synthesis between TCP/IP (or 802.11) and HAM radio capability it could allow for a possible "pipes" that are run by amateurs and not corporations. Something to think about at least. I am not a HAM and have only hear of the use very peripherally, but I wonder--what if WE THE PEOPLE took back the PIPES?


Anonymous's picture

Is that the same freedom that requires the amateurs to aquire federal approval before raising their voice. More specifically, the FCC controls HAMs through licensing which is purposely exclusionary and limiting. Can your mother grab hold of a HAM microphone and start transmitting such as she could set up a website to express her views? How is this freedom?

There is NO freedom in HAM in the United States. NONE.

I totally agree - between

Chris Metropolis's picture

I totally agree - between the various "narrowcast" methods the general public has at its disposal, we can each be a carrier for a "new" internet. Let the telcos take this one, let them get complacent with a tasty treat; in the background, a new freedom grows from wireless.

I am surprised that you

Anonymous's picture

I am surprised that you didn't mention John Walker's piece:

You say run...

Anonymous's picture

You say that we should leave the Internet to the big companies... Do you also say we should leave the amazon rainforests to the farmers who supply McDonalds? Or that we should leave the sky to the pollution which is mounting? If you keep running away from every fight, you eventually only have lost battles and nowhere else to go... Nowhere that isn't owned by someone else, nowhere that you can say you have some power of your own; and you accept defeat before you even try to repel the onslaught... In fact, you are going so far as to accept the inevitable cage that is being built up around you, becuase lets face it, the world can only belong to the wealthy few, while the majority must toil to supply them with our last drop of sweat, blood, and freedom...
I disagree, I say we need to fight with everything we have, even if sometimes a threat is a presumed one, it's better to arm yourself against a perception than to be naked in a bull-ring, to be safe than sorry... I'd rather be able to choose what I want to do with my computer than be given today's menu and make my imagined choice, which is what content providers and pipe owners would have you do...

Lousy deal

Anonymous's picture

I wish he'd spelled out a specific example or two to make the problem clear. Here's one: In my town there is exactly one broadbasnd ISP, and for any reasonable amount of money you give up the right to have a any type of server running on your computer as part of your service agreement.

From a technical perspective I could set up an online shop for my photography as a side business on my own systems, but it's not allowed. Yes there are workrounds, they've invovled paying someone else for what I ought to be able to do myself, which makes the whole thing a good bit less financially viable.

Your "we'll just build another network" solution sucks for those of us who were looking forward to having these new opportunities right about now.

"...especially about the future"

njs's picture

It is absolutely inevitable, in my opinion, that the system of yesterday will get devoured by the big companies. But while Doc suggests we should fight against this process, I say don't waste the effort.

Hmm. Except you don't know that, any more than I know the opposite. History's pretty unambiguous here: making accurate predictions about things as complicated as governments and nations is not physically possible. You can make an educated guess, and careful analysis beats guessing wildly, but in the end we just don't know.

So let's make a deal -- we'll write letters to congresspeople and work on the Next Big Thing. It's not like geeks budgeting 30 minutes once a month to write a quick note and stick a stamp on it is going to kill free innovation dead. And hey, maybe it'll do something good -- too early to say.

The stakes are too high here to screw around and take unnecessary chances; there just isn't any substitute for the capability to communicate. Think of it as the political equivalent of "belt and suspenders".

(How're you gonna get Doc's podcast if the MPAA owns the wires?)

No matter how big the box, there's always an outside

Tom's picture

"(How're you gonna get Doc's podcast if the MPAA owns the wires?)"

Go wireless...

I humbly request that

pb's picture

I humbly request that instead of spending time writing letters to Congress, that Doc make an extra podcast so that we have less reason to bother with the RIAA and MPAA.

And I humbly suggest that making another podcast is exactly what the MPAA and the RIAA would prefer Doc to do.

For some people, sticking a finger up their ass is always the easier option. Hey, it's your political system - why don't you use it? Sure, preaching to the converted is easier...