A Beginner's Guide to Using pyGTK and Glade
The beauty of pyGTK and Glade is they have opened up cross-platform, professional-quality GUI development to those of us who'd rather be doing other things but who still need a GUI on top of it all. Not only does pyGTK allow neophytes to create great GUIs, it also allows professionals to create flexible, dynamic and powerful user interfaces faster than ever before. If you've ever wanted to create a quick user interface that looks good without a lot of work, and you don't have any GUI experience, read on.
This article is the direct result of a learning process that occurred while programming Immunity CANVAS (www.immunitysec.com/CANVAS). Much of what was learned while developing the GUI from scratch was put in the pyGTK FAQ, located at www.async.com.br/faq/pygtk/index.py?req=index. Another URL you no doubt will be using a lot if you delve deeply into pyGTK is the documentation at www.gnome.org/~james/pygtk-docs. It is fair to say that for a small company, using pyGTK over other GUI development environments, such as native C, is a competitive advantage. Hopefully, after reading this article, everyone should be able to put together a GUI using Python, the easiest of all languages to learn.
As a metric, the CANVAS GUI was written from scratch, in about two weeks, with no prior knowledge of pyGTK. It then was ported from GTK v1 to GTK v2 (more on that later) in a day, and it is now deployed to both Microsoft Windows and Linux customers.
In a perfect world, you never would have to develop for anything but Linux running your favorite distribution. In the real world, you need to support several versions of Linux, Windows, UNIX or whatever else your customers need. Choosing a GUI toolkit depends on what is well supported on your customers' platforms. Nowadays, choosing Python as your development tool in any new endeavor is second nature if speed of development is more of a requirement than runtime speed. This combination leads you to choose from the following alternatives for Python GUI development: wxPython, Tkinter, pyGTK and Python/Qt.
Keeping in mind that I am not a professional GUI developer, here are my feelings on why one should chose pyGTK. wxPython has come a long way and offers attractive interfaces but is hard to use and get working, especially for a beginner. Not to mention, it requires both Linux and Windows users to download and install a large binary package. Qt, although free for Linux, requires a license to be distributed for Windows. This probably is prohibitive for many small companies who want to distribute on multiple platforms.
Tkinter is the first Python GUI development kit and is available with almost every Python distribution. It looks ugly, though, and requires you to embed Tk into your Python applications, which feels like going backward. For a beginner, you really want to split the GUI from the application as much as possible. That way, when you edit the GUI, you don't have to change a bunch of things in your application or integrate any changes into your application.
For these reasons alone, pyGTK might be your choice. It neatly splits the application from the GUI. Using libglade, the GUI itself is held as an XML file that you can continue to edit, save multiple versions of or whatever else you want, as it is not integrated with your application code. Furthermore, using Glade as a GUI builder allows you to create application interfaces quickly—so quickly that if multiple customers want multiple GUIs you could support them all easily.
Two main flavors of GTK are available in the wild, GTK versions 1 and 2. Therefore, at the start of a GUI-building project, you have to make some choices about what to develop and maintain. It is likely that Glade v1 came installed on your machine. You may have to download Glade v2 or install the development packages for GTK to compile the GTK v2 libglade. Believe me, it is worth the effort. GTK v2 offers several advantages, including a nicer overall look, installers for Windows with Python 2.2 and accessibility extensions that allow applications to be customized for blind users. In addition, version 2 comes installed on many of the latest distributions, although you still may need to install development RPMs or the latest pyGTK package.
GTK v2 and hence pyGTK v2 offer a few, slightly more complex widgets (Views). In the hands of a mighty GUI master, they result in awesome applications, but they really confuse beginners. However, a few code recipes mean you can treat them as you would their counterparts in GTK v1, once you learn how to use them.
As an example, after developing the entire GUI for CANVAS in GTK v1, I had to go back and redevelop it (which took exactly one day) in GTK v2. Support was lacking for GTK v1 in my customers' Linux boxes, but installing GTK v2 was easy enough. The main exception is Ximian Desktop, which makes pyGTK and GTK v1 easy to install. So, if your entire customer base is running that, you may want to stay with GTK v1. One thing to keep in mind though—a Python script is available for converting projects from Glade v1 to Glade v2, but not vice versa. So if you're going to do both, develop it first in Glade v1, convert it and then reconcile any differences.
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glade c
how can be get the previous window on click of a button on current window in glade c???
Visibility
It seems with glade-3 visibility of GtkWindow is off by default. That means, if you do the steps outlined here and run the program you exactly see nothing. To turn visibility on, select the GtkWindow (serverinfo) in the tree view in glade, select the Common tab, and set Visible to Yes. Trivial, yes, but took me some time to find in this property zoo.
How to connect two windows in pygtk
I am recently working with python. I want to create a GUI where i want to appear one window after clicking on the button of another window. How can I do that?
And after calling one window I want the control should be gone to next window and it shouldn't remain on initial one.
Plz can anybody help me?
How to connect two windows in pygtk
I am recently working with python. I want to create a GUI where i want to appear one window after clicking on the button of another window. How can I do that?
And after calling one window I want the control should be gone to next window and it shouldn't remain on initial one.
Plz can anybody help me?
www.experl.com
... and you thought this guy _only_ did cutting-edge comsec research?
http://www.experl.com
starting appgui.py
rudi@snjo:~$ Prosjekter/prosjekt1/src/appgui.py
(appgui.py:5573): libglade-WARNING **: could not find glade file 'project1.glade'
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "Prosjekter/prosjekt1/src/appgui.py", line 66, in ?
app=appgui()
File "Prosjekter/prosjekt1/src/appgui.py", line 35, in __init__
self.wTree=gtk.glade.XML (gladefile,windowname)
RuntimeError: could not create GladeXML object
check the path of the glade file
same as Subject.
Heh
... and you thought this guy _only_ did cutting-edge comsec research?
Code???
It would be nice to know what to do with the bits of code your pasting in the tutorial.
As it is your pasting the code and saying 'hey, this is a piece of the program, goodluck with it!'
How are beginners like myself supposed to know where to place this code?
Other than that nice tutorial, for as far as I was able to follow it
Im getting Syntax Error
Im getting Syntax Error at
pygtk.require ...
already installed pygtk at ubuntu 6.06, including devel package... :<
ok now... new problem: if i
ok now... new problem: if i try to contact google.com it works, but if i try www.google.com it fails:
GtkWarning: gtk_text_buffer_emit_insert: assertion `g_utf8_validate (text, len, NULL)' failed
self.logwindow.insert_at_cursor(data,len(data))
Same problem, found fix
See here:
http://www.mail-archive.com/pygtk@daa.com.au/msg17911.html
Re: A Beginner's Guide to Using pyGTK and Glade
here's the code for the first section with corrected indents and comments:
#!/usr/bin/env python import sys try: import pygtk #tell pyGTK, if possible, that we want GTKv2 pygtk.require("2.0") except: #Some distributions come with GTK2, but not pyGTK pass try: import gtk import gtk.glade except: print "You need to install pyGTK or GTKv2 ", print "or set your PYTHONPATH correctly." print "try: export PYTHONPATH=", print "/usr/local/lib/python2.2/site-packages/" sys.exit(1) #now we have both gtk and gtk.glade imported #Also, we know we are running GTK v2 class appgui: def __init__(self): """ In this init we are going to display the main serverinfo window """ gladefile="project1.glade" windowname="serverinfo" self.wTree=gtk.glade.XML (gladefile,windowname) # we only have two callbacks to register, but # you could register any number, or use a # special class that automatically # registers all callbacks. If you wanted to pass # an argument, you would use a tuple like this: # dic = { "on button1_clicked" : # (self.button1_clicked, arg1,arg2) , ... dic = { "on_button1_clicked" : self.button1_clicked, "on_serverinfo_destroy" : (gtk.mainquit) } self.wTree.signal_autoconnect (dic) return #####CALLBACKS def button1_clicked(self,widget): print "button clicked" # we start the app like this... app=appgui() gtk.mainloop()Re: A Beginner's Guide to Using pyGTK and Glade
hmm, the actual post doesn't look like the preview and tags don't work. well here are the major mistakes:
(add a comment) # (self.button1_clicked, arg1,arg2) , ...
(add an indent) dic = { "on_button1_clicked" :
Re: A Beginner's Guide to Using pyGTK and Glade
Wow, this is awesome!!!
I'm having just a couple problems though.
-How do you add keyboard shortcuts?
-Whenever I run the program from a different directory (i.e. "../file.py") it can't find the Glade file and dies. How do you tell Python to look in the same directory the .py file is in?
Whenever I run the program fr
Whenever I run the program from a different directory (i.e. "../file.py") it can't find the Glade file and dies. How do you tell Python to look in the same directory the .py file is in?
sys.path[0]is the path of the directory where the python script was found. So you could add (example):
import sysgladefile = sys.path[0] + "/" + "project1.glade"
Re: A Beginner's Guide to Using pyGTK and Glade
I fiddled around for some hours, but repeatedly got the following error:
I cost me quite some time to find out that the windowname used in your app has to be the same as the one given to the window in glade. Here's a posting on that issue: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/tutor/2003-September/025114.html
Maybe it's worth mentioning, it seems to me like some common pitfall and maybe it saves others time as well as frustration.
So, the following two entries have to be the same:
.glade file:
widget class="GtkWindow" id="window1"
.py file:
windowname="window1"
sebas.
Thanks! I wasted an hour
Thanks! I wasted an hour trying to figure this out.
Thank you :-)
Thank you .... :-)
I was also trapped in that ...
--
psk
libglade-CRITICAL error
Thanks a lot, i have been trying to figure out what was causing this error forever. I couldn't find the file glade-xml.c on my system, so i had no idea where to go. thanks again.
Thanks a lot ! I got the sam
Thanks a lot !
I got the same problem and could solve it now
Re: A Beginner's Guide to Using pyGTK and Glade
Sorry...first time ever with python here, and I can't seem to make this work. When I add the lines
self.logwindowview=self.wTree.get_widget("textview1")
self.logwindow=gtk.TextBuffer(None)
self.logwindowview.set_buffer(self.logwindow)
I get an error when I try to run it:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "./main.py", line 44, in ?
app=appgui()
File "./main.py", line 30, in __init__
self.logwindowview.set_buffer(self.logwindow)
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'set_buffer'
The same thing happens when I replace the initialization of logwindowview with self.logwindowview=gtk.glade.XML(gladefile,"textview1"), except instead of "Nonetype object" I get "gtk.glade.XML object" in the error. Am I missing something?
Re: A Beginner's Guide to Using pyGTK and Glade
me too. i stopped at that point.
Re: A Beginner's Guide to Using pyGTK and Glade
nevermind....apparently Glade didn't believe me when I said "Save." Problem fixed!
Speed ??
I am always curious, how fast is it in the end compared to c/gtk+ or tcl/tk or tcl/gtk+ ?
Re: Speed ??
I don't know for sure, but just a guess there's probably not a very big difference since all the drawing and socket handling is still in C somewhere under all the Python code; I wouldn't imagine this particular app to be very different from it's C counterpart.
Re: Speed ??
The answer is "Fast Enough."
I don't notice the difference between pyGTK and a normal GTK app. Obviously it doens't load up quite as quickly, since it has to load all of Python, but on a reasonably fast machine, you can't tell.
Dave Aitel
Immunity, Inc.
explanation confuses vertical and horizontal boxes
The text confuses vertical and horizontal boxes. This is probably obvious, but I don't want anyone to be confused when the text says horizontal box when referring to figure 2, when it is in fact a vertical box. The text for figure 3 says vertical box but should say horizontal box.
Re: explanation confuses vertical and horizontal boxes
I was wondering about that!
MacOS
What about MacOs X?
Re: MacOS
as long as you have gtk and python installed (via fink or from source) and some sort of X server, it shouldn't be a problem
Re: MacOS
I've seen various GTK+ progs on Mac OS X, I'm sure it's possible.
Re: A Beginner's Guide to Using pyGTK and Glade
I was just discovering pyGtk and marvelous pyGlade, this quite complete and simple introduction comes at the right time ! (I just found a pyGlade tutorial which was too simple and written for glade1, and pyGtk faq is quite chaotic (that's also fun))
I like the eleguance of such a solution.
I would be interested in knowing how to pack a python application in a win32 installer.
thanks.
Alex
Re: A Beginner's Guide to Using pyGTK and Glade
Greate article, I was just about to start writing a ton of threading code since I had never heard of input_add(), thanks for saving me the trouble.
I think the time for Python based GTK2 apps is now. Two, or even one, year ago I wouldn't have chosen Python for my project because the dependencies were too many. But since Red Hat now codes all their configuration utilities with pyGTK2 I am confident that many will already have all the libraries installed and that the language bindings will continue to be maintained. If distributed properly there is no difference between a GTK app done in C or python from the end users point of view, as it should be.
Re: A Beginner's Guide to Using pyGTK and Glade
I'm getting an error when running.
First I think the following line should have been commented out.
(self.button1_clicked, arg1,arg2) , ...
Second I'm getting an the following error.
File "./serverinfo.py", line 47
self.wTree.signal_autoconnect (dic)
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
Any Ideas, at first I typed everything in. Thinking there must have been a typo somewhere, I copied and pasted from the site and still get that error.
Thanks,
John R. Tipton
I had a problem like this...
I had a problem like this and it was that I didn't finsh the dictionary on the line before off with a '}' . Maybe that's your problem.
Re: A Beginner's Guide to Using pyGTK and Glade
remember: indention matters in python.
the lines
dict = {...
self.wTree.signal_autoconnect (dic)
should be indented same as the
self.wTree=gtk.glade.XML (gladefile,windowname)
before
Re: A Beginner's Guide to Using pyGTK and Glade
Another option is to get the .tgz file from the ftp site mentioned at the end.
The code in the article (both online and in print) has been through some
sort of formatter which seems to not like Python..
Re: A Beginner's Guide to Using pyGTK and Glade
So how involved is it to roll out python, pygtk, gtk2 and your application for clients who use windows and have none of that installed? Is it a case of it being better for you to do it yourself or is there a neat automated way one could create an "installer"? I was going to use python + pygame for a recent project, but ended up doing it in C for ease of distribution (windows ppl just download a binary and run it).
Nick
Re: A Beginner's Guide to Using pyGTK and Glade
Personally, I make my clients "Do it themselves". This currently involves downloading three executables from public websites, and double-clicking on each of them in turn.
In other words, it is extremely easy. It does take a few megs, but we've all got a few megs to spare for Python, right?
There is an annoying gotcha or two with Win32, of course. My current favorite is that Win32 will let you listen on one port twice in a row. Aside from that minor issue though, the Win32 CANVAS (which is what the article is based on) runs exactly the same as the Linux CANVAS. This was an impotant design consideration for me when I started the project.
Dave Aitel
Immunity, Inc.
Re: A Beginner's Guide to Using pyGTK and Glade
"just for next time". Pygame games are easily turned into standalone binaries. If you use one of the free "installer" programs, no one will ever know it was written in python. There are already "shareware" style games written in python for windows users. examples? click and play!
SolarWolf (my humble game, exe installer)
http://www.pygame.org/shredwheat/solarwolf/
BaseGolf (a shareware one, exe installer)
http://alitius.com/games/basegolf/
Pathological (new retro puzzler, zipped exe)
http://pathological.sourceforge.net/
These were all done using the "py2exe" tool and various packaging/installer tools.
Re: A Beginner's Guide to Using pyGTK and Glade
Wow! They must have used a time machine to travel to the future to post this!
Re: A Beginner's Guide to Using pyGTK and Glade
Their dates have been wrong for years. They don't seem to care.
I thought it was funny the first time I posted the same crack, but everybody else ignored me, and I nobody's ever fixed it.
Anyways, welcome to Linux Journal, dude.
~Bitterman~
Re: A Beginner's Guide to Using pyGTK and Glade
This is a sample article from the September issue, so its official date is September 1. Magazines generally put out a given month's issue during the previous month. Why? Tradition.
And yes, we're going to publish the Linux drivers for the time machine.
Re: A Beginner's Guide to Using pyGTK and Glade
If you're considering writing an app. for GTK+ 1.2, keep in mind that the Python bindings for GTK+ 2 are actively maintained. If you encounter a bug in the old bindings, of which I'm sure there are a few, they will not likely be fixed.
A cool feature of the latest PyGTK release, 1.99.17, is support for custom widgets. GLADE's widget palette isn't complete, so you can add a placeholder with the name of a widget creation function. I use this to embed gnome-terminal's VTE terminal emulator widget.
You'll notice that GLADE's signal handler drop-down list contains the names of C functions, like gtk_widget_show(). You can take advantage of this by writing Python functions with the same name. I frequently use the following functions:
Define these before the call to signal_autoconnect() function and you can pass it the value of the built-in locals() function. No need to write your own mapping dictionary.
PyGTK is good stuff. If you've ever seen a GTK+ program written in C, you'll appreciate how elegant a comparable Python can be.
embed terminal in GTK window
You mention that
I have tried finding system documentation as well as googled for implementations of python-vte and the use of vte_terminal_new() but there are no examples at the time of writing.
Please elaborate with a brief example of how to embed a terminal in a GTK window.
Any chance of elaborating
Any chance of elaborating with a quick example of the glade file and initial python code.
Re: A Beginner's Guide to Using pyGTK and Glade
Can anyone can give an example of how to create a new widget using
custom widget
Re: A Beginner's Guide to Using pyGTK and Glade
One clarification regarding signal_autoconnect(): if you write straight-line procedural code, as you are likely to do when starting out, you can define your handler functions at the top level and pass locals() to signal_connect(). For example:
If your handlers are in a class, as in this article, you can pass self to signal_autoconnect(). For example: