Editors' Choice Awards

After much deliberation, here are our choices for 2001.
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Re: Oracle as DB choice...

Anonymous's picture

I'm a bit disapointed that Oracle won top awards. While I think it is great that they are not leaving us in the dark, and they should certainly be encouraged, they don't have anywhere near the platform support that PostgreSQL or MySQL has.
We run our central web servers on PPCLinux (YellowDog), we chose PostgreSQL as our database because it was opensource *and* ran on just about any hardware.
This was the reason why we chose Linux as our OS, it ended up making our system very scalable and we could move to just about any hardware if we out-grew our current machines. Using Oracle would limit us to Intel only.

I use mozilla

duman6's picture

I use mozilla, but konqueror is the best browser on Linux. The Print Dialog of mozilla is ugly.

Re: Oracle as DB choice...

Anonymous's picture

Why not Oracle? Yes it is expensive, source code not customizable etc etc. but can MySQL and PostgreSQL compete with Oracle's features? To mention few features (from over hundred unique features) that comes to mind immediately are:

* Clsutered database with Cachefusion (called RAC in 9i and OPS in earlier versions).

* Extensive Bitmap index support

*.Multiplatform/OS support.

* A very powerful SQL query optimizer.

* Parallel execution support etc.

Re: Oracle as DB choice...

Anonymous's picture

I think are correct if looked at in the correct light. Oracle does support many platforms. Linux, Solaris hell any *nix OS. Plus windows and most other sold platforms. Ok maybe it doesn't currently run on Mac OS X but give me a break.

Re: Editors' Choice Awards

Anonymous's picture

Why Konqueror? Why not!

Konq + relevant KParts have evolved at a tremendous rate, and is one of the major reasons why KDE is becoming so popular - its by no means perfect, but I have no doubt that problems will be fixed very quickly.

Its good that projects on a roll get recognition from the community - in this case, it provides extra competition for Gnome, and so our favourite desktops evolve at a faster rate!

Mozilla is of course potentially ground breaking in its flexibility and cross platform abilities, BUT until recently was not really stable. I've had a lot of fun with .94-.96 releases though, so next year, who knows?

Re: Editors' Choice Awards

Anonymous's picture

Konqueror may be nice, but I don't believe that it can beat Galeon. Galeon takes the rendering engine of mozilla, neglects to add mail and news clients (good thing) and wraps it in a nice quick GTK interface. It has done tabbed browsing for months, supports 'skins' (to a degree), is stable and fast.

Re: Editors' Choice Awards

Anonymous's picture

I don't understand why noone even mentions Opera ?

I personnally think it's th emost promising browser out there ! Even if the linux port is still new, it's usuable, and offers a lot of flexiblity while being ultra fast ! Check it out : www.opera.com

Re: Editors' Choice Awards

Anonymous's picture

I'll put in a word for Opera. I used the Windows version for a couple of years before moving to Linux and have been using Opera 5 since the change. It was good, but I just recently upgraded to the latest 6.0 TP2 pre-release, and even as alpha software it's terrific. Faster than and at least as stable as Konqueror or Netscape 6.2. Runs the Flash plugin, picks up your desktop colors in KDE. Simply install the new package right on top of the old one and it'll kep all your bookmarks, configuration, etc, just like a Windows install. I'm a paid user of both Widows & Linux versions, and glad to spend the money. Great in either flavor.

Re: Editors' Choice Awards

Anonymous's picture

Oracle the best database for Linux ?

I beg to differ. The pricing and attitude of Oracle remind me very much of M$. Even their boss would like to be Bill Gates !!!

For proprietary offerings there is IBM's DB2, which comes from a company which is proving itself as the "friend of Linux". And it can beat the pants off Oracle any day in performance (despite the FUD from the Oracle spindoctors).

And you could at least have encouraged the open source developers trying to make MySQL and PostgreSQL as good as the proprietary offerings.

Re: Editors' Choice Awards

Anonymous's picture

Are you talking about "best database for Linux " or "best FRIENDS' database for Linux " or "best FREE database for Linux " ?

Re: Editors' Choice Awards

Anonymous's picture

I am most interested in official benchmarks indicating that DB2 outperforms Oracle 9i on Linux.

I am not religiously tied to any technology, and will gladly get on board with the best. Those who do not, don't catch the big fish. I need industry-standard benchmark proof of this claim.

Re: Editors' Choice Awards

Anonymous's picture

I agree. As a seasoned Oracle vetern and DBa etc, I recently set up my own business - requiring a database backend and all of that. Having so much Oracle and a small sense of 'thanks for all the work', I phoned up to inquire on the licence fee, for a Linux/Apache/PHP implementation. I was flabbergasted - and no consideration for the sad 'start up phase'.

So now I am a very very happy PostgreSQL guy.

PostgreSQL can easily step up to the plate. I will be a strong supported going forward.

Good luck.

Re: Editors' Choice Awards

Anonymous's picture

What about SAP DB ? I'm pretty darn impressed with it.

And the good folks at the other three-initial corporate monolith deserve to get some kudos.

www.sapdb.org

Re: Editors' Choice Awards

Anonymous's picture

How can you say IBM's a "frien of Linux" ???? Oracle database was the first real RDBMS ported under Linux environnement...

When was DB2 available for Linux ??

Concerning performance, I don't know where are you taking your informations from... Did you ever saw any real benchs ??? I made some of them, with heavily-loaded web sites... Oracle is far away faster, and obviously more robust than any other RDBMS. Sure, it's a bit complex than DB2 or MySql...

Re: Editors' Choice Awards

Anonymous's picture

I'm not certain, but I believe I have a DB2 cd at home that came out prior to Oracle, it was a beta copy. IBM also came out with VIA-voice prior to 1999, and the logical volume manager that exists in the current kernal was developed with IBM's help using the LVM model on their AIX system. IBM also came out publicly in their support of LINUX before any other major vendor, IBM will be the leader in getting Linux in the mainstream.

Years ago in it's infancy, the C-language was thought of as a joke, until IBM ported it to the mainframe, it was only then that it became a mainstream language.

SuSE 7.3

Anonymous's picture

It's a great product, but can be difficult to install.

Preempt-kernel

Anonymous's picture

Nice to see the preemptible kernel project mentioned. It is a great patch, not just of benefit to RT users. The maintainer's website is http://tech9.net/rml/linux ... too bad he didn't get any credit. But, hey, oh well, check it out.

John

Re: Editors' Choice Awards

Anonymous's picture

SuSE 7.3 Award is well deserved and easily beats the other Distributions released this year! Anyone who gives it a try will more then likely exclaim, "Red Hat who?"

Re: Editors' Choice Awards

Anonymous's picture

I disagree. RedHat 7.3 is easier to use because I'm used to it. If I wanted to load SAP on linux, I might interface with SUSE.

I prefer Oracle on RedHat, apache, php....etc on RedHat.

....if you think about it, Redhat is more of what Americans are used to.

That's my opinion.

Re: Editors' Choice Awards

Anonymous's picture

Let me tell you that SUSE, undoubtless one of the best distribs, doesn't put the ISOs of their CD's in their FTP servers.

Re: Editors' Choice Awards

Anonymous's picture

Where can I found Iso image of SuSeE

Re: Editors' Choice Awards

Anonymous's picture

You cannot find iso's of SuSE.

There are only iso's of Live Evalution CDs.

Please check out:

ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/

In my opinion SuSE is the best of all Distributions.

Greetings from Germany

tdk

Re: Editors' Choice Awards

Anonymous's picture

I forgot to tell you why there are no iso's of SuSE.

At the moment you get 7 CDs and 1 DVD when you buy SuSE Linux 7.3 Professional.

It is only allowed to copy the CD 1-3, because they contain only free Software.

The rest is commercial Stuff, that's not for free.

P.S.: YAST2 is the best Setup Tool ever.

Greetings from Germany

tdk

Re: Editors' Choice Awards

Anonymous's picture

I agree! YAST2 is a really great setup tool.

My SuSe 7.3 installation was much more easy and much faster than ever Windows installation I used before.

KDE2 is the 1st LINUX GUI better than Windows.

Niko

Vienna, Austria

don't like yask

linux me's picture

somehow I just don't link YaST at all, only prefer command myself

I agree! YAST2 is a really great setup tool.

My SuSe 7.3 installation was much more easy and much faster than ever Windows installation I used before.

KDE2 is the 1st LINUX GUI better than Windows.

Re: Editors' Choice Awards

Anonymous's picture

I simply hated pre 6X versions because thay still contained many German in documentation, dialog boxes etc. I simply don'y understand German, but from 7.0 on SuSE has been my mainstream distro for business deployment. Just try to install a ldap capable mail server with bot IMAP and pop3 integrated to openldap2 on a Redhat in just one and a half hour and make it work in your first try :)

Re: Editors' Choice Awards

Anonymous's picture

The awards for Nmap and Abiword were right on, but

Konqueror? What were you thinking?

Re: Editors' Choice Awards

Anonymous's picture

Better check out Opera once again!

Re: Editors' Choice Awards

Anonymous's picture

Do you know about any other good browser and file manager for linux ? Konkeror is very good.

Re: Editors' Choice Awards

Anonymous's picture

For a browser, try Opera 6. For me, Konqueror sucks as a file manager - slow, buggy, just seems like a kludge in that role. Try Midnight Commander, or maybe my particular favorite variation of it, XWC Commander. Very much like Windows File Manager. Extremely fast, fairly stable, has some nice features like mount/unmount buttons, etc.

Re: Editors' Choice Awards

Anonymous's picture

I'd have to agree. Why Konqueror?

It's fine if your using KDE, and whilst KDE users spend a lot of time talking it up, I've never seen the need to switch.

My vote goes to Mozilla, which as a browser, not only works well, but works across both KDE and GNOME, and also other OSes as well, helping not only to improve the browsing experience, but also to break down the platform barrier.

Re: Editors' Choice Awards

Anonymous's picture

"My vote goes to Mozilla, which as a browser, not only works well, but works across both KDE and GNOME, and also other OSes as well, helping not only to improve the browsing experience, but also to break down the platform barrier."

Hopefully you're aware of this, but if you just install the KDE libraries, you can run Konqueror under Gnome.

Why Konqueror? I'm sorry, but if you pull up just about any web page in Konqueror and do a side by side comparison with Mozilla, you will see my favorite reason why, it just plain looks better. Not to mention feels a bit faster. Also, for me, if I leave Mozilla open for a week or more(I'm a nerd, so sue me), the thing will just close down, especially if I was just posting something on a website like this. Not a big deal but it annoys me.

Konqueror looks great and since I've already switched from Gnome to KDE(try Kdevelop and you'll have a good idea why I switched), I might as well use it. Not that I'm trying to knock either the Gnome or the Mozilla teams, I just happen to prefer KDE and Konqueror.

Re: Editors' Choice Awards

Anonymous's picture

I use mozilla, but konqueror is the best browser on Linux. The Print Dialog of mozilla is ugly.

Re: Editors' Choice Awards

Anonymous's picture

Try "Enhanced Browsing" in Konqueror some time. It comes with shortcuts for popular sites such as Google (just type gg:gifs to search for GIFs) and you can add enhanced browsing for every site you search. No more visiting the home pages of sites such as SourceForge just to do a search -- have Konqueror do it for you.

New Konqueror windows do pop up a lot slower than new Mozilla windows, though.

...I simply hated pre 6X

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...I simply hated pre 6X versions because thay still contained many German in documentation, dialog boxes etc. I simply don'y understand German, but from 7.0 on SuSE has been my mainstream distro for business deployment. Just try to install a ldap capable mail server with bot IMAP and pop3 integrated to openldap2 on a Redhat in just one and a half hour and make it work in your first try :)....

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